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posted by martyb on Friday April 10 2015, @08:08PM   Printer-friendly
from the looking-up dept.

If you've ever wondered why Dutch people are so tall, this story from The New York Times may have the answer:

Today, the Dutch are on average the tallest people on the planet. Just 150 years ago, they were relatively short. In 1860, the average Dutch soldier in the Netherlands was just 5 feet 5 inches. American men were 2.7 inches taller.

Since 1860, average heights have increased in many parts of the world, but no people have shot up like the Dutch. The average Dutchman now stands over six feet tall. And while the growth spurt in the United States has stopped in recent years, the Dutch continue to get taller.

For years, scientists have sought to understand why average height has increased, and why the Dutch in particular have grown so quickly. Among other factors, the Dutch have a better diet than in the past, and they also have better medical care. But now Dr. Stulp and his colleagues have found evidence suggesting that evolution itself is also helping to make them taller.

It seems that taller men in the Netherlands are more likely to father more children:

Dr. Stulp and his colleagues analyzed data on 42,612 men and women over age 45, looking at the height of their subjects and how many children they had. Dutch men who were taller than average had more children than those of average or lower than average height, the researchers found.

 
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  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @08:58PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @08:58PM (#168833)

    The bell curve issue to come up again. Why is it that people of different ethnicity, factoring for education on a culture neutral test battery, have different mean IQ numbers? Along with the usual stuff about IQ being meaningless, the wonderlic not actually being culture neutral, that intelligence does not actually have any advantages, and so on.

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  • (Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday April 10 2015, @09:07PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Friday April 10 2015, @09:07PM (#168836) Homepage

    This has nothing to do with race or ethnicity and everything to do with dick size. Taller men have bigger dicks, and bigger dicks make women not only orgasm but stay. Orgasm physiologically increases the odds of female pregnancy while the female's pleasure ensures that she will stay around to reproduce the sensations. Tall men have tall kids.

    " B-But Ethanol-fueled, Black men have big dicks too! "

    There are plenty of light-skinned women in that part of the world who, for various reasons, want to have kids with a skin color close to theirs, despite what all of the Jew-conceived race-mixing propaganda plastered and broadcast everywhere would have you believe.

    • (Score: 2) by SlimmPickens on Friday April 10 2015, @09:10PM

      by SlimmPickens (1056) on Friday April 10 2015, @09:10PM (#168837)

      Yep, it's dicks all the way down!

    • (Score: 1, Troll) by GungnirSniper on Friday April 10 2015, @09:34PM

      by GungnirSniper (1671) on Friday April 10 2015, @09:34PM (#168840) Journal

      The ruling classes in Western Europe are certainly trying to destroy any semblance of national ethnicity among the native population. Since most European features (at least hair and eye color) are recessive, this means immigration is the recessive genocide.

      I've read elsewhere that women prefer thicker penises for one-night-stands and longer, thinner ones for relationships.

      • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:09PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:09PM (#168845)

        I've read elsewhere that women prefer thicker penises for one-night-stands and longer, thinner ones for relationships.

        Sounds like your anxiety over race mixing has more to do with fear of large black penises.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:19PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:19PM (#168850)

          Okay what the hell. This clearly racist statement is modded informative while other evidence based posts are modded flamebait.

          Has soylent turned to slashdot so quickly?

          • (Score: 0, Redundant) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:40PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:40PM (#168855)

            No, this statement isn't racist. I'm not making any claim over the race-based differences in penis size. Rather, I was saying that the GP's non-sequitor about penis size directly after equating of race-mixing to genocide suggests that he has some deep-seated fears about black penises.

  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @09:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @09:43PM (#168841)

    Natural selection explains blacks in the USA. For 350 years, they were bred to be strong and muscular for field labor. The ones who were smart and resisted were killed while their obedient cousins stayed around to breed and replenish the next generation. Eventually, the large majority of the population became stronger, larger, but more docile and dependent. Today, black culture in America is characterized by groupthink (some 99% voting for the same political party that enacted Jim Crow laws and supported the Klan) and broken families....the lasting legacy of slavery.

    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @09:50PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @09:50PM (#168842)

      Natural selection explains blacks in the USA. For 350 years, they were bred to be strong and muscular for field labor.

      The last guy who said that got fired from CBS [wikipedia.org]. Besides, it's not NATURAL selection if someone is choosing which ones breed for the express purpose of breeding better laborers.

  • (Score: 2, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:17PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 10 2015, @10:17PM (#168849)

    Interesting that I was modded flamebait. Why is it that height differences are okay to talk about but IQ is taboo to even acknowledge? I made no specific claims save for that there is evidence of difference in IQ, just as there is evidence for difference in height and I listed some of the counterarguments.

    I think the moderation says more about the mods than the content.

    • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Saturday April 11 2015, @12:22AM

      by kaszz (4211) on Saturday April 11 2015, @12:22AM (#168868) Journal

      Because when there's a lot of self interests involved. There will be a fight.

    • (Score: 2) by fleg on Saturday April 11 2015, @04:28AM

      by fleg (128) Subscriber Badge on Saturday April 11 2015, @04:28AM (#168894)

      indeed. which is why i just modded it interesting. would be good if you could post some citations too tho.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 11 2015, @12:07PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 11 2015, @12:07PM (#168945)

      IQ shouldn't be taboo, but it should be acknowledged as mere pseudoscience. The idea that we can measure someone's intelligence using a single number and laughably simple tests, and then claim it does measure intelligence because it supposedly correlates with things some arbitrarily think are indicators of intelligence is pure nonsense. We don't have a good enough definition of intelligence yet, let alone a way to measure it with any degree of accuracy.

  • (Score: 3, Touché) by maxwell demon on Saturday April 11 2015, @07:49AM

    by maxwell demon (1608) on Saturday April 11 2015, @07:49AM (#168915) Journal

    Why is it that people of different ethnicity, factoring for education on a culture neutral test battery, have different mean IQ numbers?

    Citation needed.

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    The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.