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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday April 14 2015, @07:25PM   Printer-friendly
from the how-clear-can-it-be dept.

Sharp has announced its intention to manufacture the world's sharpest display, a 5.5" IGZO screen with a 4K/UHD 3840x2160 resolution (806 pixels per inch), for some 2016 smartphones. Is 806 PPI too much? Tom's Hardware notes the drawbacks while celebrating the new milestone:

Although devices that are 1440p or even 4K will look even more stunning, there are indeed diminishing returns benefits-wise as the cost, the power consumption, or the GPU resources required to handle such high resolutions are significantly higher than the previous generations.

That's not to say that a 4K display today will necessarily cost more than a 1440p display did last year, but it does cost significantly more than a 1440p display being sold this year. Although the price ratios for components may remain relatively the same for the new technologies inside a new smartphone, if the benefits are increasingly smaller, then there's an opportunity cost, as well.

For instance, the extra cost to get a 4K display over a 1440p display this year could be used instead towards improving the device's camera. (OEMs could use a sharper lens, a larger sensor, improved OIS, and so on.) This sort of balance should always be taken into consideration.

[...] That doesn't mean higher resolution displays in smartphones are not useful. However, they could be even more useful for other applications; for example, 4K displays are ideal for VR. In order to have a VR experience that makes you completely forget you have a screen in front of your eyes, you'll need at least a 4K resolution screen.

Higher-resolution displays will also help lower the cost of lower resolution panels.

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @09:52PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @09:52PM (#170572)

    Which is why we are all using OLED monitors. Without years of manufacturing 5" OLED phone displays we would never have made it to this point.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:00PM (#170578)
    Actually OLED monitor production has jumped up quite a bit since the smaller displays have been in big demand. Oops.
    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:04PM (#170582)

      > Actually OLED monitor production has jumped up quite a bit since the smaller displays have been in big demand.

      Actually there are no consumer grade OLED computer monitors on the market.
      There are pro-monitors for $5000+ [bhphotovideo.com] though. Ooops.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:15PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:15PM (#170589)
        Why were the goal posts moved? Anyway, >HD LCD monitors existed back in the early 2000's, yet didn't become consumer grade until a decade later. Now if you look at what was happening just a year or two before they came along... tee hee.
        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:20PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:20PM (#170595)

          > Why were the goal posts moved?

          They weren't. "Apple's iMac displays"

          > HD LCD monitors existed back in the early 2000's, yet didn't become consumer grade until a decade later.

          I am still using my Dell 2405 from 2005. Cost me less than $1000.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:35PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:35PM (#170599)

            >Which is why we are all using OLED monitors.

            Sorry, if you haven't moved the goalposts, then I'm still not sure what it is you're measuring here.

              I am still using my Dell 2405 from 2005. Cost me less than $1000.

            Phrased like a rebuttal, yet it supports my point.

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:37PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:37PM (#170600)
              My apologies, a line was left out. Was supposed to read:

              Sorry, if you haven't moved the goalposts, then I'm still not sure what it is you're measuring here. Sub-$5,000 OLEDs have been around for a while. I personally have been using a sub-$2k pro-display for over a year now. I'm just not sure why exactly you're ruling that out.

              I misused a bracket, sorry.

              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:39PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:39PM (#170601)

                > I personally have been using a sub-$2k pro-display for over a year now.
                Name it.

                > Phrased like a rebuttal, yet it supports my point.

                A consumer grade display widely available less than half the decade after the early 2000s that you claimed.

                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:54PM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @10:54PM (#170610)

                  Name it.

                  I don't feel like bugging our staff to settle a pointless debate on SN, but I used the same Google you could have used to find one: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=1078805&gclid=CIqKmJjv9sQCFcRgfgodjQ8AVQ&is=REG&Q=&A=details [bhphotovideo.com]

                  That's not even the cheapest.

                  A consumer grade display widely available less than half the decade after the early 2000s that you claimed.

                  Right, and it wasn't greater-than HD res. Seriously, you're supporting my point.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:00PM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:00PM (#170614)

                    > I don't feel like bugging our staff to settle a pointless debate on SN, but I used the same Google you could have used to find one:

                    I fully expected you to name a 7-inch field display because a $2000 7-inch OLED monitor is basically the same thing as a 20+ inch monitor.

                    >> HD LCD monitors existed back in the early 2000's, yet didn't become consumer grade until a decade later.
                    > Right, and it wasn't greater-than HD res. Seriously, you're supporting my point.

                    Do people constantly accuse you of moving the goal posts and you can't figure why they make that accusation?

                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:12PM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:12PM (#170621)

                      I fully expected you to name a 7-inch field display because a $2000 7-inch OLED monitor is basically the same thing as a 20+ inch monitor.

                      You're talking about a monitor whose price plummeted not long after the release of the Playstation Vita and a couple of semi-successful Android phones. So... maybe you really are unaware of the curved OLED TVs etc being sold right now? I don't know. I honestly don't get where you're coming from.

                      Do people constantly accuse you of moving the goal posts and you can't figure why they make that accusation?

                      Monitor resolutions stagnated for a decade and saw a massive boost shortly after cell-phone displays were improved. Your response to that: "You're wrong, here's a piece of data that shows why you're right. " I really don't know what to do with that.

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:15PM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:15PM (#170622)

                        I can not argue with that.

                        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:15PM

                          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 14 2015, @11:15PM (#170623)
                          Have a good day, then.