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CoolHand
on Friday April 17 2015, @09:55AM
from the we-got-high-apple-pie-in-the-sky-hopes dept.
from the we-got-high-apple-pie-in-the-sky-hopes dept.
A trailer spanning about 90 seconds has emerged for the upcoming new Star Wars movie. Featuring footage of Han Solo and Chewbacca, together with shots of a grand scope reminiscent of Star Wars: A New Hope, the trailer appears to depict a film quite closely aligned with the first Star Wars trilogy of yore. The anticipation was huge and reactions generally positive, with several high profile fans posting exuberant reactions minutes after seeing the trailer.
Could this be the redemption of the Star Wars franchise?
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(Score: 2, Insightful) by Marneus68 on Friday April 17 2015, @10:08AM
>Could this be the redemption of the Star Wars franchise?
Nope. Not as long as the Thrawn Trilogy keeps being excluded form the canon.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Rivenaleem on Friday April 17 2015, @10:38AM
Why bother? When so few (likely none) movie or TV adaptations of any books are ever as good as their original formats. At this point, no Thrawn movie will ever be as good as the book and will instantly be slated were it made.
For the same reason as they change things in HBO's adaptation of GoT, I'd rather they made new original stories so I get more out of the franchise. If I ever want to re-experience the Thrawn trilogy, i can just read the books again. What is the great fascination with making movie adaptations of everything, and always being disappointed with the end result? Look at the recent Hobbit movies and how they were received. Ender's Game, Hunger Games, even Harry Potter fans claim that as good as the movies are, the books were better...
Even the argument about whether they are canon or not is moot. Do you really accept Lucas' ruling (or that of some Disney exec) about whether you should accept what they decide is canon or not in a completely fictional universe?
I thoroughly enjoyed the Thrawn books and I don't need a movie adaptation of it and I don't need someone to confirm they are canon to justify my enjoyment of them.
(Score: 2) by WizardFusion on Friday April 17 2015, @11:44AM
I think that you can say that most books are always better than the film adaptations. Enders Game for example was a great book, the film was only meh. Another one is 2001. Awful film, great book. The problem the hollywood types have is trying to squeeze a book that could be several 10's of hours long into 1.5 or 2 hours. Then there are all the internal dialog issues that Enders Game had a huge amount of in the book, but none in the film.
As for what is canon and what isn't, I would say that only a handful of people that watch these films will actually care. That is not to say it's right or wrong, but most people simply don't care and just want to watch a movie.
(Score: 2) by theluggage on Friday April 17 2015, @01:42PM
Another one is 2001. Awful film,
Really, not a good example! 2001 wasn't a film adaptation of a book - the book and film were written concurrently [wikipedia.org] (you really ought to turn in your geek card for that one!). Leaving aside the subjective matter of whether or not it is "awful", on thing you can not accuse it of is trying to squeeze too much in - it must be one of the slowest-paced "mainstream" films ever made.
2010, maybe... but I don't think a post-Voyager tourist's guide to Jovian system with friendly Russians would have worked in a mass-market film.
The problem the hollywood types have is trying to squeeze a book that could be several 10's of hours long into 1.5 or 2 hours.
That's why the winning formula for SF films seems to be "take one mind-blowing idea and the name of the protagonist from a (probably unfilmable) Philip K Dick story, shred the rest, then write a Tom Cruise/Governator/Harrison Ford vehicle around it." I actually think that Total Recall and Minority Report told stronger stories than the PKD shorts, while Blade Runner was just a different experience that was pointless to compare with the book.
(Score: 2) by JNCF on Friday April 17 2015, @04:48PM
I think that you can say that most books are always better than the film adaptations.
I still feel unclean for liking the the film ending of Fight Club more than the book ending.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by sudo rm -rf on Friday April 17 2015, @10:04PM
I don't want to flamebait, but the movie adaption of 2001 is my absolute favorite movie. The book is great, and so is the film. Just different. Just in case somebody hasn't heard of this before: watch the last sequence (Juptiter and Beyond The Infinite) to Pink Floyd's "Echoes", synchronize the first *ping* with said title, like here [youtube.com](starts at 00:58)
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Nerdfest on Friday April 17 2015, @11:47AM
Oh come on, the "Twilight" moves were just as good as the books.
(Score: 4, Funny) by Rivenaleem on Friday April 17 2015, @01:38PM
I will admit that on the 'goodness' scale, they do occupy the same position.
(Score: 2) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Friday April 17 2015, @02:15PM
Fifty Shades of Poo.
You're betting on the pantomime horse...
(Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday April 17 2015, @06:52PM
Oh come on, the "Twilight" moves were just as good as the books.
Honest question: Do they actually sparkle in the books?
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Friday April 17 2015, @02:05PM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 3, Funny) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Friday April 17 2015, @02:22PM
I just want a good buddy flick, like 48 Hours, with Han Solo and Lando Calrissian. Is that too much to ask?
You're betting on the pantomime horse...
(Score: 1) by Ethanol-fueled on Friday April 17 2015, @03:19PM
Episodes IV-VI are the canon. There is no canon but that canon. Anything other than that is crap.
(Score: 2) by TheRaven on Saturday April 18 2015, @07:44PM
sudo mod me up
(Score: 2) by wonkey_monkey on Friday April 17 2015, @03:53PM
This, of course, can't happen without completely disregarding the prequel trilogy.
Or without alienating the casual audience who's never heard of the Thrawn Trilogy, and will have no idea who these new, but seemingly significant, characters are.
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