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posted by takyon on Sunday April 19 2015, @09:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the home-power-is-killing-energy dept.

Diane Cardwell reports in the NYT that "many utilities are trying desperately to stem the rise of solar power, either by reducing incentives, adding steep fees or effectively pushing home solar companies out of the market."

The economic threat has electric companies on edge. Over all, demand for electricity is softening while home solar is rapidly spreading across the country. There are now about 600,000 installed systems, and the number is expected to reach 3.3 million by 2020, according to the Solar Energy Industries Association. In Hawaii, the current battle began in 2013, when Hawaiian Electric started barring installations of residential solar systems in certain areas. It was an abrupt move — a panicked one, critics say — made after the utility became alarmed by the technical and financial challenges of all those homes suddenly making their own electricity. "Hawaii is a postcard from the future," says Adam Browning, executive director of Vote Solar, a policy and advocacy group based in California.

But utilities say that "solar-generated electricity flowing out of houses and into a power grid designed to carry it in the other direction has caused unanticipated voltage fluctuations that can overload circuits, burn lines and lead to brownouts or blackouts."

"At every different moment, we have to make sure that the amount of power we generate is equal to the amount of energy being used, and if we don't keep that balance things go unstable," says Colton Ching, vice president for energy delivery at Hawaiian Electric, pointing to the illuminated graphs and diagrams tracking energy production from wind and solar farms, as well as coal-fueled generators in the utility's main control room. But the rooftop systems are "essentially invisible to us," says Ching, "because they sit behind a customer's meter and we don't have a means to directly measure them." The utility wants to cut roughly in half the amount it pays customers for solar electricity they send back to the grid. "Hawaii's case is not isolated," says Massoud Amin. "When we push year-on-year 30 to 40 percent growth in this market, with the number of installations doubling, quickly — every two years or so — there's going to be problems."

 
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  • (Score: 2, Disagree) by KilroySmith on Monday April 20 2015, @12:50AM

    by KilroySmith (2113) on Monday April 20 2015, @12:50AM (#172981)

    Another entitled yuppie crying because his government handout went away. The only thing worse is the screaming from the electric car owners when someone suggests that they should pay to maintain the roads that they drive on, that were historically paid for through Gas taxes.

    You've gotten used to the State of Arizona subsidizing your Solar array to encourage alternative energy. You were able to sell electricity back to SRP at RETAIL rates during the day, not WHOLESALE rates like every other electricity producer. You liked being able to be "free" of the grid in the afternoon when the utility made it's profits (you know, those ugly, evil things that keep businesses in business?), but you sure wanted to be able to turn on your lights in the evening. You loved that you didn't have to be part of paying for the electrical grid to be able to accept your puny drips of power. Who is going to pay for all of those power poles and other infrastructure to keep your lights on? Who is going to pay for that trouble truck to roll when the monsoon storms take out the power in your neighborhood?

    You're not going to find a utility company apologist here; I hate the fact that on my last bill, only about 30% of what I have to pay is for actual electricity. But you're not gonna find a supporter of "give me mine, and part of yours too" either.

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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2015, @01:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 20 2015, @01:13AM (#172984)

    Another cave man with barely two brain cells to rub together, bought and paid for by Big Oil to keep spreading FUD and flaming anyone who dares to stand up to their bullying practices.

    Did you miss the part where the OP is being charged an extra fee on top of what he might pay for any power usage, as punishment (and the utility made it clear it was indeed punishment) for daring to be even the least bit self-sufficient? Kinda blows that whole "yuppie crying about a government handout" argument out of the water, doesn't it? Of course, I wouldn't expect a birther/freeper/UFO watcher like you to grasp a concept like that; to you self-sufficiency means licking the boots of The Man and buying your cigarettes and beer with food stamps while your filthy rugrats eat roaches and dog food. Have fun fucking your sister tonight, you dickless redneck cocksucker.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Monday April 20 2015, @02:43PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday April 20 2015, @02:43PM (#173139) Journal

    maintain the roads that they drive on, that were historically paid for through Gas taxes.

    In the United States roads are not paid for through gas taxes and driving is heavily subsidized [citylab.com] by the rest of the society.

    As for the rest of your post, you do rather sound like an apologist for the utilities trying hard to pretend like you're not one. An electricity company levying penalties on a consumer for daring to use less of their service/product? Sounds an awful lot like socialism to me. The utility ought to be grateful that so many homeowners are willing to provide it green energy at no extra cost to them that they can tack a "carrying" fee onto for everyone connected to their grid who is not yet energy self-sufficient. They could even spin it like it's their part of their plan to supply "green" energy to their customers.

    See, utilities really like having a whole bunch of customers who are held hostage to their caprice. Increasingly, though, they are walking a fine line. They are loathe to spend money on new power plants and generation to keep up with growing demand. They are also challenged by an ageing grid that is the source of their monopoly; that is why they have tried so hard to sell people on the "smart grid" and get government to gift them a shiny new system that allows them to continue their monopoly for another 100 years. Meanwhile, pesky homeowners and businesses are starting to get the idea that they can switch to self-generation and thus shrink their paying customer base. So, to keep up their profit margins, they're wont to charge their shrinking customer base more and more. That, of course, sets up the feedback loop that will sink them shortly, because people who start seeing their bills climb and climb while solar and wind prices fall and fall will be more apt to jump.

    Utilities are trying to stop that with measures such as these, or in getting subsidies repealed, but it's too late. The train has left the station.

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    Washington DC delenda est.
  • (Score: 2) by tathra on Monday April 20 2015, @04:51PM

    by tathra (3367) on Monday April 20 2015, @04:51PM (#173184)

    Who is going to pay for all of those power poles and other infrastructure to keep your lights on? Who is going to pay for that trouble truck to roll when the monsoon storms take out the power in your neighborhood?

    i'd be more than happy to pay my share to keep the grid up and going, but since when do for-profit companies not care about making profit? from what you're saying, the poor for-profit utility companies only want enough to keep the grid up and pay for upgrades when necessary, which everyone knows is bullshit because there would be no profit in that.

    • (Score: 2) by KilroySmith on Tuesday April 21 2015, @02:34AM

      by KilroySmith (2113) on Tuesday April 21 2015, @02:34AM (#173367)

      You do realize, of course, that SRP, the GP's electric company, is a state-owned Co-op? That the governing board is elected by the people that the utility serves, and that there's no "for-profit" company involved here?

      My electric company in the same city is APS, which is a spawn of the devil and deserves all the scorn that one could heap upon it's head.