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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday April 23 2015, @03:46PM   Printer-friendly
from the who's-the-good-guy dept.

Newsmax reports that according to according to KRC Research about 64 percent of Americans familiar with Snowden hold a negative opinion of him. However 56 percent of Americans between the ages of 18 and 34 have a positive opinion of Snowden which contrasts sharply with older age cohorts. Among those aged 35-44, some 34 percent have positive attitudes toward him. For the 45-54 age cohort, the figure is 28 percent, and it drops to 26 percent among Americans over age 55, U.S. News reported. Americans overall say by plurality that Snowden has done “more to hurt” U.S. national security (43 percent) than help it (20 percent). A similar breakdown was seen with views on whether Snowden helped or hurt efforts to combat terrorism, though the numbers flip on whether his actions will lead to greater privacy protections. “The broad support for Edward Snowden among Millennials around the world should be a message to democratic countries that change is coming,” says Anthony D. Romero, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union. “They are a generation of digital natives who don’t want government agencies tracking them online or collecting data about their phone calls.” Opinions of millennials are particularly significant in light of January 2015 findings by the U.S. Census Bureau that they are projected to surpass the baby-boom generation as the United States’ largest living generation this year.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by The Archon V2.0 on Thursday April 23 2015, @04:30PM

    by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Thursday April 23 2015, @04:30PM (#174342)

    Y'know, if your best retort to the accusation that your generation made things worse is that the next generation won't be any better, maybe you shouldn't be retorting.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by frojack on Thursday April 23 2015, @06:16PM

    by frojack (1554) on Thursday April 23 2015, @06:16PM (#174381) Journal

    On the other hand, if all you have to say is STFU, maybe its because the shoe fits just a little too tight for your comfort.

    Those who won't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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    No, you are mistaken. I've always had this sig.
    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2015, @07:31PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2015, @07:31PM (#174406)

      The critical point is one thing has happened and the other might happen. Between the two, one has been proven and the other is angry speculation.

    • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2015, @12:22AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday April 24 2015, @12:22AM (#174486)

      On the other hand, if all you have to say is STFU

      Actually, the response of "You're just as bad, or will be!" is not a logical argument to begin with. The one you replied to merely pointed that out. Someone's arguments stand on their own merits.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2015, @01:37PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Saturday April 25 2015, @01:37PM (#175053)

      Yeah, I put the men's size 12 shoe on my cock. And the shoe was too small. Now my cock hurts, and you're damn right I'm going to bitch and moan about it!

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by gishzida on Thursday April 23 2015, @08:46PM

    by gishzida (2870) on Thursday April 23 2015, @08:46PM (#174430) Journal

    Hmmm... Don't count everyone in a generation as being responsible for bad policy and evil government. I think that the release of those NSA documents point out how our government has been pwned by liars and profiteers. The people who tell us one thing and do another... "Newspeak" for the post millennial world.

    Snowden is a hero to me... and I'm 61.

    What I find disturbing but at the same time incredibly funny is that the so called "Hippies" of my generation have been accused as being responsible for everything going down the toilet...

    The folks that have betrayed this country have nothing to do with "Peace, Love, and Music". They have nothing to do with being liberal or even moderate. They are the embodiment of Dylan's "Masters of War"-- the people responsible for the current despair have always been focused on "Profits, Lies, and Murder". They'll send your sons and your daughters down into death and darkness all for an extra nickle of dime. Monsters like that exist in *every* generation.... Forty years from now look back to this time and ask yourself "Was my generation any better?" I hope with all my heart you can say it is... but right now it looks like you are losing to the blackness of the people that think a "few white lies" helps the medicine go down" [brought to you by your friends the soul-less corporations].

    I would say that your target this generation should be the "Libertarians" and the "Tea Party"... Why? Because they believe in a "free market" where anyone is allowed to do *anything* for a profit. What the tea baggers and "libertarians" fail to realize is that "free market" is the Darwinian Ideal for the Soul-less Corporations that have taken root and control over so many aspects of our daily life. The idea that a "Soul-less" Corporation are people is insane. I use the term "soul-less" in the sense of 'one without compassion'. If corporations are "people" why aren't they tried and convicted like every other "person" including being sentenced to death for murder or prison for robbery, rape, burglary, and 9000 other crimes.

    Forty years of tea bagging and "libertarians" will means America and its citizens not only being pwned but pucked as well. Don't like that idea? Do something about it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2015, @11:43PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday April 23 2015, @11:43PM (#174478)

      > If corporations are "people" why aren't they tried and convicted like every other "person"

      Turns out Arthur Anderson was. The company basically got the equivalent of a corporate death penalty. Accenture spun out first, but the accounting part that was left was dead and gone in less than a year after the DoJ prevailed in court. And... that was the start of "too big to fail" - the death of Arthur Anderson and the job-losses associated with it made the DoJ into pussies and now they are afraid to press for criminal charges of any significant measure any more.

      • (Score: 1) by gishzida on Friday April 24 2015, @09:38AM

        by gishzida (2870) on Friday April 24 2015, @09:38AM (#174585) Journal

        Anderson was small change. Almost any CPA that sits on "mahogany row" in any firm is "dirty" or knows someone down the row that is. I used to work for a CPA corporation / partnership during the late 90's. "Pump and Dump" or "shake and bake" -- no method was too low to make money... I even worked briefly for a genuine scam artist who had an "internet start-up"... which consisted of a bunch of people who knew how to peel money away from the unwary. Banks and Credit Unions are not much better. I worked IT for a CU... The only difference is one of scale.

        It's been said that if you ever work at a fast food restaurant you'll never want to eat fast food again... the same can be said of the financial industry.

        Money spells corruption.

        It also spells power.

        The Koch Brothers want Scott Walker to be the next president. Can you guess why? Anyone backed by that much money should be on your list of people never to vote for... if you do, you can bet you just slit your own throat.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by Anal Pumpernickel on Friday April 24 2015, @12:27AM

      by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Friday April 24 2015, @12:27AM (#174488)

      Corporations by and large only claim to support the free market, but their actions suggest otherwise. They claim to want a free market, and then bribe the government for more draconian laws to increase the strength and length of their government-enforced monopolies over implementations of ideas and procedures. They claim to want a free market, and then get deals with local governments that grant them monopolies in those areas. They claim to want a free market, and then try to get the government to destroy their existing or future competitors. It just goes on and on. The "free market" is nothing more than lip service, and what it really means to them is that they're free to have the government destroy all their competitors.