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Debian 8 "Jessie" was released on 25 Apr. A link to the Debian release page shows the changes and you can follow the release in 'real-time' should you desire to do so.
This release will be supported for 5 years and includes "improvements" to the UEFI software (both 32- and 64-bit) introduced in the previous version, "Wheezy". It also is the first release to use systemd as default init system replacing the earlier sysvinit, which is still available in the repos should you wish to revert the change. What effects such a change might have on the remainder of the system is not clear. Improvements to the support of Debian software include the ability to browse and search all source code distributed in the latest release.
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Two is not equal to three, even for large values of two.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @08:38PM
Have you considered why those haven't been affected?
Slackware is prehistoric. It has very few users because it's damn inconvenient to use. It's just not an option in any business setting. We don't have days to waste with configuring each Slackware installation. So only a tiny handful of hobbyists can afford to waste their time with it.
Devuan is a non-starter. It was a knee-jerk reaction that has ended up as a total failure.
Gentoo users are still waiting for 2007-era source code to compile today. It'll be a few years before they finally get to systemd's earliest releases.
Linux Mint was on the fence about systemd last I heard. Now that both Ubuntu and Debian use systemd, I would not be at all surprised if Linux Mint starts to use it, too.
The BSDs are, obviously, not Linux distributions. And their development teams aren't made up of fucking retards, either. They've shot down previous attempts at switching to Windows-inspired init systems like systemd, and they obviously won't adopt such systems now after seeing all of the problems they've caused for Linux users.
Linux is dead. It's a simple as that. The only distros not using systemd are unusable in practice. Today, if you want an open source, Unix-like system, you have to go with one of the BSDs. They're the only viable options left. Linux just isn't suitable for serious use any longer.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 26 2015, @08:49PM
First they pumped us full with Microsoft because I didn't know better.
Then they fucked up Linux because thats where the users had escaped.
When there was no other place to escape they came for BSDs to force you back into the corporate monolith.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @08:54PM
Are you comparing Windows to using a penis pump?
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 26 2015, @08:56PM
Such tool actually has a use case :P
I'm not so sure about that software .. ;-)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:06PM
"Linux is dead. It's a simple as that."
Why doesn't anyone go and murder the people that killed linux?
An eye for an eye.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:18PM
Sensible people, me included, are not going to kill anyone over software. It's fucking disturbing that you'd even consider murder to be an option.
It's much saner and easier for us just to use one of the BSDs. We get a better kernel, we get a better userland, and we still can compile and run pretty much all of the good Linux software that we've come to like.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:22PM
I bet you wouldn't kill someone for getting you fired because of your social beliefs.
I bet you wouldn't kill someone who was prosecuting you, trying to put you in prison.
I bet you wouldn't kill someone who was campaigning to ban child marriage of girls in your country.
I bet you wouldn't kill someone attempting to evict you from your place of living.
I bet you would never kill anyone over anything.
You don't believe in anything.
When someone takes something of yours, or tries to degrade your position, the proper response is to kill them in a painful way or to permenantly maim them as a reminder to them, the parents that raised them and instilled in them these beliefs against yours, and others like them.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:33PM
>I bet you wouldn't kill someone who was campaigning to ban child marriage of girls in your country.
It's creepy that you believe banning pedophilia is something worth killing people over.
Your priorities and your moral compass are both totally fucked in the head, pal.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:47PM
It absolutely is justified.
Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew.
Young girls are what made men want to live in the past.
Taking that away is a good reason to kill.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:18PM
Why won't Devuan get their act together and fucking DO something.
I've forked 2 opensource projects and created various others from scratch.
I have no problem making releases.
Their job is simply to compile programs!
I offered to help, they banned me (no anti-feminists allowed in Devuan either).
Fucking faggots.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:21PM
It was obvious from the beginning that Devuan was going to be a failure. The name alone was dumb. I followed the discussion in one of their IRC channels at times, and it was inane. It was clear that it wasn't going to go anywhere.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:32PM
Can we find them and beat the shit out of them for the bannings and the false hope.
They took money for nothing, in many parts of the world a death sentance is appropriate when you scam people like that.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:34PM
That pot smoking Jaromil piece of shit should be killed when he runs off with the money.
Just an opinion.
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:36PM
What the relationship with feminism and systemd ?
Why do you want to marry little girl, are you a pedophile, so emotionally insecure that you cannot imagine living with a woman as your equals, not your subordinate opinionated slave ?
Even if you were the best packager alive, everyone sane would ban you to avoid your continuous schizoid crypto-islamo-fascist drivel...
Move to Syria and leave the civilized world alone....
(Score: 2, Disagree) by kaszz on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:39PM
No such claim found in parent poster.
(Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:47PM
read the first post, then read the parent post.... the grammatical style is the same as the one i replied to.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:51PM
Young girls are cute, women are not usually.
Young girls are nice, women are not.
The old testament allows men to have young girls.
Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew.
Including in cases of the man raping that female child.
>Move to Syria and leave the civilized world alone....
"Go leave your family and die in a bombing"
Basically you are saying the equivalent of: go get a german shepard.
If you want a kitten, go and die you piece of shit.
(Score: 5, Touché) by janrinok on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:43PM
MikeeUSA - is that you?
Why should any distro 'allow' or 'deny' anti feminists to join their ranks. What have your views on the feminist movement got to do with writing professional quality software? Can you not see that your personal opinions have nothing to do with supporting software? I suspect that the Devuan team are judging potential members on their coding abilities and proven track record rather than any hangups or personal baggage that volunteers might be carrying.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:55PM
They denyed because of anti-feminist beliefs. Then they deleted my emails.
And why should they allow?
Because they haven't produced a thing. They can't even seem to compile other people's software.
I've forked multiple projects, and started multiple others from scratch.
What have they done?
Jack Shit.
And yet they are "better" than I.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Monday April 27 2015, @03:20PM
(Score: 2) by Marand on Monday April 27 2015, @03:17AM
MikeeUSA - is that you?
I saw at least two AC remarks about gpcslots2 being rejected from Debian (while omitting that it's a badly coded pile of shit that's full of asshole "easter eggs" and unsuitable for inclusion in any distro), and one about forking Xonotic, both common things MikeeUSA bitches about. It's clear that he's either posting here again or somebody thinks it's fun to play at being MikeeUSA for trolling purposes.
For what it's worth, he probably doesn't even have any real objection to systemd, he's just using it as another way to attack Debian because he's deranged and decided long ago to target it for whatever crazy-fuck reason he really has. It's the same thing that happened when there was that silly wine bug in testing and both SN and Slashdot got hit with AC submissions slamming the distro for it (the testing cycle reveals and fixes bugs. OMG!), along with a slew of other trivial gripes. Every time, he showed up to push his agenda in the comments if the submissions got accepted.
Unfortunately, all he's managed to do so far is convince the Debian folks that anybody that doesn't approve of the move to implement systemd for Jessie is a Mikee apologist and supporter, such as the remark made in this post by Russell Coker [coker.com.au]. If Mikee's real goal was to get legitimate anti-systemd sentiment ignored because everyone's more focused on his attention-grabbing bullshit, he did a great job.
Too late for it to matter (not that it ever did), but my thought on it is that Jessie should have defaulted to sysvinit + systemd-shim for the purpose of appeasing the desktop components, with intent to move to systemd-init for the next stable release. More testing time, more chance to squash the edge case problems, and a more gradual migration. Maybe with an installer option to use systemd-init. The switch felt rushed, with political motives overriding the generally conservative and cautious migrations Debian usually favours.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @07:51PM
>(while omitting that it's a badly coded pile of shit that's full of asshole "easter eggs" and unsuitable for inclusion in any distro)
Tell us about these easter eggs that the game is "full" of.
Tell us why, if a game uses "If" statements rather than switch statements while waiting for user input, it is "badly coded and should be kept out of distros".
Tell us about other textconsole casino games for Nix not by the author :)
No, The reason, you FUCKING piece of shit (BTW: on of your kind was MURDERED in Pakistan yesterday. THANK GOD (of deuteronomy, not your pro-feminist cuck)), exclude this game
is because you do not like the opinions of the author. No other reason. When you people are murdered it is wonderful. WONDERFUL. Thanks to Putin some years ago also
for killing one of your feminist reporter women in russia.
>Systemd
Systemd is garbage. It is overly complex crap that often runs at 100pct cpu (just like pulse audio even now!) and does the same thing the simpler sysv or sinit does: start up a few programs such as X.
It is also something similar to a rotting stump: lots of holes to burrow into if one so chooses.
(The kernel is somewhat similar, but what can you do: ask the grsec / PaX team)
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Marand on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:21AM
Tell us about these easter eggs that the game is "full" of.
Tell us why, if a game uses "If" statements rather than switch statements while waiting for user input, it is "badly coded and should be kept out of distros".
I already covered that here [soylentnews.org] (for anyone interested in a brief code examination) and see no reason to do so again. You're a deranged crackpot with some of the worst code I've had the misfortune of reading -- and I've been abusing Perl since the 90s.
As for the rest of your comment, thanks for confirming the "deranged lunatic" remarks I've made with your psychotic ranting. You clearly know fuck-all about me, except for knowing that I think your gpcslots software is rubbish, so the rest of your remark is just lunatic ranting and a desire for my harm based solely on your own delusional fantasies of what you think I'm like.
You need a white jacket and a padded cell, seriously. I'm amazed you haven't been committed to an asylum already.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:54AM
>You need a white jacket and a padded cell, seriously. I'm amazed you haven't been committed to an asylum already.
This isn't soviet russia yet, but you SJWs are working hard to make free thought and free speech illegal: it allready is in every european cuntry you control.
What you think about this supposed software (lol, a perlscript qualifying as software) does not matter.
What matters is the fact that it does what nothing else does, is no worse than just about any other debian-included text console game, and was rejected because the author wasn't an SJW like yourself.
Don't worry, this may come to blows though. Russia has decided to be opposed to SJWism and to physically fight your forces wherever they appear, there may yet be a world war and your kind might be removed from your perch.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:46PM
Why should any distro 'allow' or 'deny' anti feminists to join their ranks. What have your views on the feminist movement got to do with writing professional quality software? Can you not see that your personal opinions have nothing to do with supporting software? I suspect that the Devuan team are judging potential members on their coding abilities and proven track record rather than any hangups or personal baggage that volunteers might be carrying.
I suspect the problem is not the person's views, but rather that he drags them into any disagreement he has with the other team members. Who wants to work with that kind of crap constantly blowing up?
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:41PM
Makes me wonder. What is it that make the BSDs to resist systemd and other things like it. And for how long will they resist such infiltration?
(Score: 5, Informative) by K_benzoate on Sunday April 26 2015, @10:08PM
It's more that systemd isn't compatible with the BSDs, not the other way around. Systemd is, practically by design, unportable to other Unix-likes. It's Linux specific. It's designed to serve Red Hat's needs to create a complete Linux standard that they can package, sell, and contract support for. Everything about systemd/btrfs/gnome over the last few years has been geared toward making Red Hat's job easier, without regard to what the larger community wants or needs. Everything about systemd makes sense when you realize that Red Hat doesn't view its product as "a Linux distro" but as their own proprietary operating system that they want to control and profit from. They're taking the Linux kernel and creating their own operating system, and the tools they pull in from the community then become wedded to their own standards because they have the dollars to pay the programmers to make the code fit their needs. Tight integration is good for Red Hat, and bad for the rest of the community which needs modularity and options.
Red Hat wants a full operating system stack that they can sell and offer support contracts for. That's why systemd seems to consume everything it touches. They need in-house tools for an entire OS so they can do quality assurance for their customers (mostly the DoD and other large government agencies).
Red Hat is the Microsoft of the Linux world.
Climate change is real and primarily caused by human activity.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by kaszz on Sunday April 26 2015, @10:35PM
So we need to shitlist Red Hat?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @03:36AM
It wasn't already?
(Score: 3, Informative) by Marand on Monday April 27 2015, @03:39AM
So we need to shitlist Red Hat?
Or at the very least, be extremely wary of anything they introduce, because it's entirely for their own benefit, even at the expense of everybody else. RedHat backs GNOME, employs GNOME devs, employs Poettering, etc. They're all known for a heavy "not invented here" mindset, refusal to adopt existing designs and instead preferring to build their own. They also like tying all their disparate parts together and presenting it with a "take it or leave it" attitude.
It works because most people want to avoid confrontations and splits and the like, so they give up and either scrap their work or do extra work to make their code interoperate with the RH/GNOME bits (because RH and GNOME won't do that work). It's not just the big pieces like PulseAudio, NetworkManager, systemd-init, either; they also ignore things like existing notification and systray work (such as done by KDE) to instead create their own "standard" for others to use, along with doing crap like refusing to play nice with non-GNOME apps in regard to window decorations and widget themes, resulting in fucked up situations like the KDE devs creating Qt and Gtk themes to make apps from either toolkit act native in KDE or GNOME.
Hell, GNOME itself only exists because KDE came first and contrarian folk decided "we don't like your license so fuck you we'll make our own" and then stuck with it long after the licensing became a non-issue.
The goal now, which has been stated in the past[1], is to have Oracle-style control of the entire stack, top to bottom. They want GNOME to be the OS, and anything that isn't GNOME or GNOME-created is an obstacle to that. Conveniently enough, the "systemd cabal" (as Poettering called it), wants to obsolete the idea of a Linux "distribution" [0pointer.net], which would conveniently leave RedHat the gatekeeper of modern Linux.
That should be reason enough to want to shitlist RedHat anywhere possible. If I liked Redhat, I wouldn't be using Debian and its offspring distros.
[1] It was in some GNOME dev presentation a few years back. I tried finding it again to link but I can't think of specific enough search terms to filter out unrelated junk and it's not worth spending more time searching than I already have.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 27 2015, @07:08AM
Perhaps it's time for the community to screw around with everything Red Hat makes such that it makes corporate life hard. Refuse to accept their APIs rip their GPL code and implement in other ways than they thought of etc. New kernel feature? then fix it up and then make Red Hat to accept or leave it etc.
Someone else have a better idea?
(Score: 4, Funny) by hash14 on Sunday April 26 2015, @11:12PM
Red Hat is the Microsoft of the Linux world.
Going forward, I think the most appropriate name for them would be Redmond Hat.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @10:49PM
The BSD developers are generally Generation X'ers, with some even being Baby Boomers. They aren't Millennials (aka, hipsters). That's the big difference.
Maybe it's due to their age or the naivety they were raised with, but Millennials make some really fucking stupid decisions when it comes to software. Ruby on Rails, JavaScript, NoSQL and systemd are superb examples of this. Developers from earlier generations aren't dumb in the same way. They don't make obvious mistakes so readily.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Monday April 27 2015, @03:44AM
The BSD developers are generally Generation X'ers, with some even being Baby Boomers. They aren't Millennials (aka, hipsters). That's the big difference.
Maybe it's due to their age or the naivety they were raised with, but Millennials make some really fucking stupid decisions when it comes to software. Ruby on Rails, JavaScript, NoSQL and systemd are superb examples of this. Developers from earlier generations aren't dumb in the same way. They don't make obvious mistakes so readily.
You might want to rethink your stance on this: Lennart Poettering, at 34, is considered "Generation X" and is responsible for systemd, PulseAudio, and Avahi (among other things). Lumping his decisions into the millennials group is an insult to the millennials.
Bad decisions happen at all ages.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:44PM
No, somebody who is 34 would be a millennial, not a gen x.
Baby boomers were born between 1945 and 1960. Gen x were born between 1960 and 1975. Millennials were born between 1975 and 1990. They're called millennials because their formative years (10 to 25) were around the turn of the millennium. Those born between 1990 and 2005 are gen z. Those born after 2005 are commonly called recessionistas, due to living most or all of their lives during a global economic downturn.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Tuesday April 28 2015, @02:41AM
No, somebody who is 34 would be a millennial, not a gen x.
Baby boomers were born between 1945 and 1960. Gen x were born between 1960 and 1975. Millennials were born between 1975 and 1990. They're called millennials because their formative years (10 to 25) were around the turn of the millennium. Those born between 1990 and 2005 are gen z. Those born after 2005 are commonly called recessionistas, due to living most or all of their lives during a global economic downturn.
Source for this definition of GenX? and Baby Boomer and Millennial actually...
Wikipedia mentions multiple age ranges that have been used to define GenX and they all include the early 80s.
In a 2012 article for the Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University, George Masnick wrote that the "Census counted 82.1 million" Gen Xers in the U.S. The Harvard Center uses 1965 to 1984 to define Gen X so that Boomers, Xers and Millennials "cover equal 20-year age spans".
Jon Miller at the Longitudinal Study of American Youth at the University of Michigan wrote that "Generation X refers to adults born between 1961 and 1981"
In 2011 "The Generation X Report" (based on annual surveys used in the Longitudinal Study of today's adults) found Gen Xers, defined in the report as people born between 1961 and 1981
Poettering, born in 1980, counts as GenX in every definition except yours, conveniently.
Related: there's also some variation in Millennials, but the definitions for it mostly stick to 1981-1982ish for the beginning and ending around 2000-2004, and "baby boomer" is mentioned as being 1946 to 1964. Every label you defined has been off by 4-10 years.
In my opinion, using your year of birth as a catch-all for negative stereotyping is lazy and ignorant. When the boomers did it to later generations it was considered ignorant, but now that genX is getting older, many are doing it to the next generation down. It's just as dumb now as it was then, even if you're using widely-accepted definitions (which you aren't even doing).
Point is, if you can't find a better foundation for your argument that BSD development is superior than lazy stereotyping based on blaming millennials (that you can't even define properly), then there's probably something wrong with the argument itself. Not saying that you're wrong about BSD devs being superior and the tendency for dumb design decisions elsewhere, just that your reasoning is faulty and you should look for a better answer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:49AM
Poettering looks like he's 12.
He should date 12 yr old girls.
(Score: 3, Interesting) by hash14 on Sunday April 26 2015, @11:40PM
In the software world, you generally live on a spectrum of two extremes: on one side, you can do it quick. On the other, you can do it right. Though I should note before going forward that the biggest reason I'm still on Gentoo instead of FreeBSD is because of KVM - from what I've heard, bhyve isn't quite up to par yet, though if anyone has experience with this, please let me know.
I think the heads of the BSDs tend to go more for the latter side. Their products don't have quite as many features or the same degree of performance as Linux, but they are stable and well-designed as hell. The fact that the FBI has NDAs with companies to backdoor OpenBSD [arstechnica.com] suggests that OpenBSD is probably doing things right. The fact that no such issue has come forward in the Linux development community might suggest that they really don't need backdoors to hack it.
On the other hand, Red Hat, driven by their publicly traded corporation-mindset, has lately been sounding off on how they need to support all their customers' wishes and desires. Even worse, they talk like it's the kernel's obligation to provide and maintain these services, rather than their own downstream packages (see the debug fiasco and the kdbus merge which hasn't been going very well either). Their software is increasingly half-baked as they race to get into more fields like cloud services, IaaS, etc. From the outside looking in, it seems that it's a political shithole where the name of the game is to get your product into the market and make money (and to hell whether it's actually good or not).
In Red Hat's world, it's all about the money (which is why they act and sound so much like MS lately). In the BSD world, it's more about the software and the product. So that's where I think the distinction lies.
(Score: 2) by fritsd on Monday April 27 2015, @12:14PM
The way I understand it, is that systemd depends on a Linux-specific kernel feature called "cgroups", a compartmentalization(sp?) of processes.
The BSD's don't have this, so they can't have systemd.
Apparently,systemd uses the cgroups feature to determine which running processes are descended from an init service, so that killing or restarting a service becomes much more accurate (if nothing is alive anymore in the cgroup of that service, then it probably is time to restart it, if it is so configured). DISCLAIMER: I have no practical experience with this.
(Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday April 27 2015, @10:36PM
There's something called jail(8) instead. Perhaps not good enough for systemd usage.
New idea for a license.. "This code cannot be run on a CPU that has been running systemd the last five minutes" ;)
Or "if( sys.systemd ==1 && random(10) >8 ) { panic("unexplainable panic happened!"); }" :D
(Score: 3, Informative) by Nerdanel on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:53PM
Actually, Gentoo keeps its packages very much up to date, especially if you run Unstable. I haven't done a statistical analysis, but I think Gentoo Unstable would do rather well against binary distros. Remember: Someone somewhere needs to compile that package anyway. Not that that actually matters much, as compiles are really fast nowadays as long as you aren't trying to do something silly like compiling your operating system on your phone.
Just so that you know. Almost all packages compile under a few minutes nowadays. Even featureful stuff like Wesnoth and Abiword don't take much longer. Only the rare few get beyond that.
Well, maybe I was responding to a troll that was somehow modded up, but you can take this as a public service announcement. Please stop with the FUD.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Sunday April 26 2015, @09:59PM
Agreed. To me, Linux, as in GNU/Linux the OS is a dead end. The very foundation, of whats makes it great, open source was ignored. We have warring factions of clans who answer to only their egos and not the community they are trying to serve. There was never a clear path and never any clear goals. It feels like a rag tag team of know-it-alls hell bent on proving they are better at programming and design than Apple or MS and the other OSS projects. Instead they should have focused on their OS and made it WORK for the people while ignoring trends.
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday April 26 2015, @10:30PM
It was fine before the SJWs took over.
Before systemd, before the kits, etc.
Now it is ruined.
And linus is fine with that.
(Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Sunday April 26 2015, @11:28PM
Linus is only part of the Linux ecosystem. His only concern is the kernel itself. Above the kernel lies user land where all the real work is done. He has no authority in userland nor does he want any.
Linux the kernel depends on a useful, stable user land. And s far, no one has stepped up to lay down the law on what a stable and useful user-land is. So we have rag tag teams, factions if you will, each with their own goals and each with their own philosophy. And they just fight each other playing Keeping up with the Jonese instead of becoming leaders. Another poisonous mindset is the goal of beating MS and Apple. This leads to projects forever trying to play catch up and following the trend of the day.
GNU/Linux needs a real leader.
(Score: 2) by chromas on Tuesday April 28 2015, @04:47AM
You mean like poettering/systemd? Oh…wait a minute.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @12:22PM
Devuan is a non-starter. It was a knee-jerk reaction that has ended up as a total failure.
We shall have to wait and see.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:34PM
LOL, Bill gates is that you??
(Score: 2) by digitalaudiorock on Monday April 27 2015, @06:34PM
FFS...11 year Gentoo user here. I have no fucking clue what this even means, let alone why people are modding this complete and utter bullshit as +1 Interesting. WTF?? Did anyone even read this?
(Score: 1) by Barnaby on Tuesday April 28 2015, @04:42PM
Gentoo supports systemd, only it's not the default. It defaults to OpenRC.