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posted by CoolHand on Monday April 27 2015, @07:35AM   Printer-friendly
from the smile-you're-on-candid-camera dept.

TorrentFreak has uncovered a "top-secret" presentation made by the Federation Against Copyright Theft and sent to Sony Pictures. "The document reveals suspects being filmed in cinemas, tracked using Facebook friends, and their connections to release groups mapped in intriguing diagrams."

FACT goes on to give Sony several examples of situations in which it has been involved in information exercises sharing with the authorities. The exact details aren't provided, but somewhat surprisingly FACT says they include murder, kidnap and large-scale missing persons investigations.

But perhaps of most interest are the details of how the group pursues those who illegally "cam" and then distribute movies online. The presentation focuses on the "proven" leak of five movies in 2010, the total from UK cinemas for that year.

[...] Considering the depth and presentation of the above investigations it will come as no surprise to most that many FACT investigators are former police officers. For the curious, the full document can be found here on Wikileaks.

 
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  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @09:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @09:30AM (#175630)

    But perhaps of most interest are the details of how the group pursues those who illegally "cam" and then distribute movies online.

    Care to summarize them? You know, this is supposed to be a summary, not an advertisement of the article.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 27 2015, @10:23AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 27 2015, @10:23AM (#175636) Journal

    Apparently, they get video of the guy doing the camming, follow him home and/or get the police to run facial recognition to identify him. Once identified, I guess the use the equivalent of a SWAT team to bust into his home and find the "evidence". Peripherally, they go on Facebook to identify all his friends, and if any of those persons have viewed the same movie, then they are guilty by association. They've got an entire anti-terror campaign running to stop these pirated movies.

    No wonder they can't stop the real terrorists, they're to busy with enforcing corporate policy! How very much like ICE in the US!

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Dunbal on Monday April 27 2015, @10:39AM

      by Dunbal (3515) on Monday April 27 2015, @10:39AM (#175642)

      Actually reality is that there are not all that many "real terrorists" and they need to justify the billions being spent on them by showing SOMETHING...

      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 27 2015, @12:44PM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 27 2015, @12:44PM (#175676) Journal

        You're not far off. The reality is, organizations like ICE simply don't give a damn about terrorism. It's all theatrics for them. Their real mission in life is to serve those corporate masters. All the anti-terror in the world is only good for diverting attention from their real mission.

        The mission of those corporate masters, is to subjugate the population. If you or I aren't somehow contributing to enriching those corporate coffers, then we have no value, and can be safely warehoused in a prison somewhere. At least in prison, we would be generating revenue for the prison industrial complex.

        And, that used to be pretty plainly stated on the New American Century website. Neoconservatives envision a world in which every man, woman, and child on earth are working to enrich Wall Street. You can still read between the lines, but they've spray-brushed over their hard core language since Bush was elected the second time.

        • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday April 27 2015, @06:57PM

          by frojack (1554) on Monday April 27 2015, @06:57PM (#175814) Journal

          Step away from the koolaid, and nobody gets hurt...

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          • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Monday April 27 2015, @08:47PM

            by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Monday April 27 2015, @08:47PM (#175858) Journal

            I hate to break it to you, but if you really believe that ICE's mission has anything to do with terrorism, or immigration enforcement, then you're the one drinking the Kool-Aid. Oh yeah, immigration. The first thing they did after more or less disbanding INS, was to decide that they wouldn't apprehend illegal aliens, unless they were convicted criminals. Big joke there - the illegals swap names around routinely. If you were so unlucky as to be enrolled into the "justice" system, just get a new ID, with a new name on it.

            Oh - the name Napolitano. No conflict of interest there, huh?

            Kool-Aid. A lot of people do drink it. Most of them actually believe in the security theater that the administration plays for them.

            • (Score: 2) by frojack on Monday April 27 2015, @11:07PM

              by frojack (1554) on Monday April 27 2015, @11:07PM (#175891) Journal

              Security theater is one thing we agree on.

              Corporate masters is just your loony coming to the surface.

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              • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @11:25PM

                by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @11:25PM (#175894)

                He calls it "their real mission" when it is more like an inevitable side-effect of the way they pursue their official goals in the current environment.

                Some people have a really hard time with the concept of emergent effects, it is much easier to believe in active malice rather than damaging side-effects that occur because no one cares. If its malice, then there is a specific person or set of persons that you can deal with in simple straight-forward ways. But emergent properties defuse responsibility and require systemic change and that's really hard.

                • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday April 28 2015, @12:24AM

                  by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @12:24AM (#175906)

                  Some people have a really hard time with the concept of emergent effects

                  No, it's just that our system is set up to violate people's rights to such an extent that it is unreasonable to believe it's not malice at this point.

                  If its malice, then there is a specific person or set of persons that you can deal with in simple straight-forward ways.

                  Nope, because what may be causing them to become malicious is the fact that power corrupts, that these organizations have powers that they can easily abuse, and that already evil individuals tend to be hired by these organizations. So systematic change is needed either way.

                  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:40AM

                    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:40AM (#175951)

                    > No, it's just that our system is set up to violate people's rights to such an extent that it is unreasonable to believe it's not malice at this point.

                    “We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behaviour.”

                    • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:56AM

                      by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @03:56AM (#175954)

                      I just prefer to take into account the probability that these filthy scumbags aren't acting with malice. When I do, I realize that it is rather improbable that they aren't

                      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @04:33AM

                        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 28 2015, @04:33AM (#175959)

                        Circular reasoning.

                        • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday April 28 2015, @05:11AM

                          by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @05:11AM (#175966)

                          Saying that I like to take probability into account and then stating the conclusion I reach when I do is circular reasoning? You don't understand basic logic, it seems. Not presenting the specific evidence I take into account in a certain comment != circular reasoning.

    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Monday April 27 2015, @04:00PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Monday April 27 2015, @04:00PM (#175756) Journal

      What do they do if you're wearing glasses with a camera built into them?

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:17PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @05:17PM (#175768)

        Put a VEIL pattern on their uniform?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @02:00PM (#175704)

    Somebody told me once that one could "RTFA"; but I think that acronym is archaic knowledge. Nobody knows what it stands for any more.

    Also, that line is directly in said article. Do you want him to summarize an in-article summary too? This is getting a bit too meta.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @11:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday April 27 2015, @11:28PM (#175895)

    > You know, this is supposed to be a summary, not an advertisement of the article.

    Nowhere is it called a summary.
    The submission form calls it a "scoop."
    There is no requirement to summarize, however you are encouraged to do so for your scoops.