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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday April 28 2015, @05:58AM   Printer-friendly
from the working-on-skynet-and-judgment-day dept.

The US Office of Naval Research (ONR) has been showing off its Low-Cost UAV Swarming Technology (LOCUST) that will "throw massive swarms of networked aircraft into the skies to search for the enemy."

Vice has published an interview with Lee Mastroianni, Technical Manager on the LOCUST project:

Are the drones designed to carry weapons or for reconnaissance?
They could be for reconnaissance; they could be weaponized. If you look at the LOCUST video we put online, I used a sample mission... you have a simultaneous strike where weaponized UAVs take [all their targets] out at the same time.

And do they operate in a kamikaze sort of way? They fly into the target and explode?
The UAVs would be the weapon as opposed to a Predator [UAV], which launches other weapons. These are one-way missions.

Once they're in the air, how are they controlled?
That's the second big piece of the demonstration—autonomous control. Once launched, I don't need to talk to the UAVs. They understand what the mission is. They're talking to one another. You want to know what's it up to. You want to control it. You need to. But it isn't a UAV pilot flying it like a remote control aircraft.

Vice also interviewed Stephan Sonnenberg, a Clinical Supervising Attorney and Lecturer in Law at Stanford University:

Have you seen the LOCUST promotional video and, if so, what sort of angle are you coming at it from?
Stephan Sonnenberg: I'm concerned about how all this is going to be impacting civilians. You're expanding the capability—the range—of very lethal weapons systems into situations you wouldn't currently use that kind of lethal force. It's amazing for a promotional video that the target for this is indiscriminate shelling of a village.

Yeah, putting a Middle Eastern–looking settlement in the video struck me as odd, from a PR point of view. Legally, is this idea of autonomy more cause for concern than the drone technology we see at the moment?
Human Rights Watch have taken the position of many others who think that the line should be drawn with autonomous weapons. You're abdicating ethical responsibility to some kind of a programmer to write code that's going to be consistent with humanitarian norms. I think there's a lot to be worried about.

Is there any sort of legal framework in place to differentiate between manned and unmanned flights?
The US will put forward its own justifications, many of which are classified, but if you really look at it it's very scary. For example, kids that are 12-years-old, or whatever, are going to be assumed to be targets unless posthumously proven otherwise, which is obviously outrageous.

Is there any legal framework in place to stop the US developing a fully autonomous drone?
No, I don't think there is. If I were having to argue that there was, I would come up short.

 
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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by aristarchus on Tuesday April 28 2015, @07:39AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Tuesday April 28 2015, @07:39AM (#175982) Journal

    The Seventh Bowl of Wrath

    17And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
    18And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
    19And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
    20And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
    21And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

    Wow, the Navy is going to give us the exceedingly great! Hail that weighs a talent! What's a cubit? But more than that, I really think the author of Revelations was just stoned out of his mind. I met him once, in Nicea. Kinda reminded of him by Ethanol_fueled. And it sucks to be Babylon. How much worse to be Babylon 5?

    But seriously, there is a major effort being make to legitimize the use unmanned, autonomous weapons systems by the US military. You have to wonder, do these people not read science fiction, or even watch movies? Colossus, the Forbin Project. Good place to start. But, hmmm, western nations are all worried about their youth being "radicalized" and going off to "jihad" with "ISIS": imagine a Wahabhist machine: suicide is a sin in Islam. But if you are a LOCUST?

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  • (Score: 2) by mhajicek on Wednesday April 29 2015, @03:35AM

    by mhajicek (51) on Wednesday April 29 2015, @03:35AM (#176449)

    Sure they read it. They just want to be the one in the chair.

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    The spacelike surfaces of time foliations can have a cusp at the surface of discontinuity. - P. Hajicek