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posted by takyon on Monday May 04 2015, @06:40AM   Printer-friendly
from the ineffectual-terrorism dept.

The Guardian is reporting that...

Two gunmen have been killed and a security guard injured during what appeared to be an attack on a contest for cartoon depictions of the prophet Muhammad in a Dallas suburb.

The gunmen drove up to the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland shortly before 7pm on Sunday where the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) were hosting the exhibition and contest.

According to city authorities an unarmed guard at the event was shot at before the men were engaged and killed by police.

Further...

A bomb squad was called in after reports of a possible incendiary device at the scene of the incident. Police said a "bomb container trailer" had also been deployed in which to place any suspect device.

A police spokesman said two males had been killed and their bodies were still lying outside their car hours later.

"Because of the situation of what was going on today and the history of what we've been told has happened at other events like this, we are considering their car (is) possibly containing a bomb," Officer Joe Harn, a spokesman for the Garland Police Department, said.

 
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  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 04 2015, @01:30PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 04 2015, @01:30PM (#178477)

    Freedom of expression means that it is not illegal to insult others. It does not mean that it is OK to insult others.

    If you have ever wondered why countries tend to become more authoritarian: One reason is that people have trouble to distinguish between legal and OK, thinking that everything that s legal also is OK. With the result that there's a drive to make everything that's not OK also illegal. Which is bad because things which normally are not OK are often not only OK, but actually required under special conditions. But those special conditions are impossible to codify in law because you never can foresee all of them.

    That's why it is important for people to understand that just because something is legal does not mean it is OK. All it means is that you cannot be punished for it.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 04 2015, @06:25PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 04 2015, @06:25PM (#178671)
    "Legal" is a much more objective measure than "OK." "OK" is completely subjective.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 04 2015, @06:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 04 2015, @06:32PM (#178678)

      > "Legal" is a much more objective measure than "OK." "OK" is completely subjective.

      Yes it is. But people are not robots, we are fuzzy, analog creatures.
      The law defines the boundaries for worst cases, expecting anything more of it is to fundamentally misunderstand the roll of law in society.

  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 04 2015, @11:58PM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Monday May 04 2015, @11:58PM (#178859) Journal

    If you have ever wondered why countries tend to become more authoritarian: One reason is that people have trouble to distinguish between legal and OK, thinking that everything that s legal also is OK.

    No, I don't buy that at all. Instead, it's a standard mindset of anything that isn't subjectively OK should be made illegal. It is the duty of the authorities to enforce a particular moral order.

    • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:01AM

      by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:01AM (#178986)

      There's no such thing as absolute morality, or at least, no one has been able to scientifically demonstrate that such a thing exists.

      • (Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:03AM

        by Anal Pumpernickel (776) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:03AM (#178988)

        So, if people have such a mindset, then they are being rather illogical.

        • (Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:38AM

          by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:38AM (#179372) Journal
          Wait, so there are illogical people in my reality? Who knew?
  • (Score: 1) by khallow on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:04AM

    by khallow (3766) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:04AM (#178863) Journal

    With the result that there's a drive to make everything that's not OK also illegal.

    [...]

    That's why it is important for people to understand that just because something is legal does not mean it is OK.

    That will not happen. It's important to understand here that a direct consequence of freedom are both the freedom to do something wrong or stupid and the statistical fact that with a large enough population someone will eventually do that wrong or stupid thing. If your freedom depends on others always doing the right and smart thing, then you will not remain free.