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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday May 05 2015, @02:53AM   Printer-friendly
from the couldn't-even-run-a-company dept.

Carly Fiorina, the former chief executive of Hewlett-Packard, has announced that she will seek the Republican nomination for the 2016 US presidential election:

"Yes, I am running for president," she said on ABC's "Good Morning America," where she made the announcement to host George Stephanopoulos. "I think I'm the best person for the job because I understand how the economy actually works. I understand the world, who's in it, how the world works. I understand bureaucracies, and that's what our federal government has become — a giant, bloated, unaccountable, corrupt bureaucracy," she said. "I understand technology, which is a tool both to re-imagine government to re-engage citizens in the process of government, and I understand executive decision-making, which is making a tough call in a tough time with high stakes for which you're prepared to be accountable."

The former Hewlett-Packard executive said she does not believe that it is necessary to have experience in political office, something that she has heard from Americans while traveling throughout the country. "They're kind of tired of the political class, and they believe that we need to return to a citizen government," she said.

Fiorina also slammed Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton, saying that she is not trustworthy. While Fiorina said she admires Clinton, she asserted that the former secretary of state has not been transparent about issues ranging from Benghazi to foreign donations to her family's foundation.

Fiorina also launched her presidential campaign website on Monday, featuring a one-minute video with the message that America's founders "never intended us to have a professional political class." The video begins with Fiorina watching Clinton's presidential announcement. After Clinton says she is running for president, Fiorina switches off the TV, turns to the camera and delivers her message.

Neurosurgeon Ben Carson made his announcement on Sunday; former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee is expected to join the race on Tuesday.

Gizmodo points out that Fiorina's team forgot to register the domain carlyfiorina.org.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:02AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:02AM (#178919)

    30,000 fewer jobs at HP. (Extrapolate for 300M.)
    HP stock price halved after the Compaq acquisition.
    HP stock price went up sharply after she was canned.

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by takyon on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:09AM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:09AM (#178922) Journal

    30,000 fewer jobs at HP. (Extrapolate for 300M.)

    That's one heck of an extrapolation.

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  • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM (#178923)

    All she has to do is to bully every man until he leaves the workforce completely. Everybody knows social women are never unemployed because they use their mastery of cronyism to hire friends and enemies. With an all-female workforce, America is sure to succeed. There will be a brief increase in crime until every man is in prison where he belongs.

    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:18AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:18AM (#178933)

      Can you tell us, from your person experience, how it feels to have a penis that is smaller than everyone on the planet (including the half who have no penis at all)?

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:41AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:41AM (#178955)

        What's it like to be a outspoken supporter of your female oppressors? Do you get a massive erection every time you say "Yes, Ma'am, I want your success to benefit me, Ma'am!"

  • (Score: 4, Funny) by c0lo on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:10AM (#178924) Journal

    HP stock price went up sharply after she was canned.

    Why go through the painful and expensive process of electing her? Can you... well... can her before she's elected?

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    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by GungnirSniper on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM

      by GungnirSniper (1671) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM (#178928) Journal

      We could secede before the election, or after if she actually wins something. The North Will Rise Again!

      • (Score: 3, Funny) by c0lo on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:39AM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:39AM (#178939) Journal

        We could secede before the election, or after if she actually wins something.

        lol... Imagine if all the 50 states + other districts/territories secede in protest if she wins!

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:48AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:48AM (#178957)

          You couldn't even find 50 Americans to agree to protest anything. Good luck finding 50 state governments.

          • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:30AM

            by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:30AM (#179367) Journal
            A pity... would have been great fun.
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        • (Score: 4, Funny) by Marand on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:00AM

          by Marand (1081) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @07:00AM (#178970) Journal

          lol... Imagine if all the 50 states + other districts/territories secede in protest if she wins!

          God, no! Think of it this way:

          She fails horribly at being CEO, falls upward into presidency. Extrapolating from that, if she were to fail that spectacularly at being president, then who knows what sort of job she'd fail her way into? Next thing you know, aliens show up and crown her Empress of All Galaxies. The entire universe would be fucked!

      • (Score: 5, Funny) by M. Baranczak on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:57AM

        by M. Baranczak (1673) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:57AM (#178949)

        If Canada secedes, it's all over.

        • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Tuesday May 05 2015, @06:19PM

          by Gaaark (41) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @06:19PM (#179185) Journal

          There will be no seceding here in Canada... we do NOT suck seeds!!!! :-#

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    • (Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:30PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:30PM (#179061)

      Yes we can!

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:13AM (#178930)

    But I don't know if it would've been worse if she hadn't been HP CEO. They might have lost 60,000 jobs or gone out of business altogether.

    -- gewg_

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:40AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:40AM (#178940)

      That is all.

      -- gewg_

      • (Score: 5, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:46AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:46AM (#178944)

        Dude, if you aren't going to log in, you can't complain if another AC impersonates you.
        Well you can complain, but you will get nearly zero sympathy.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:53AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:53AM (#178948)

        Actually, calling you shithead was pretty shitty of me. I apologize.

        -- gewg_

        • (Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44AM (#178956)

          Fuck me! I love to take it in the asshole!

          -- gewg_

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:22AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @09:22AM (#179018)

            Also, my pants are very baggy.
            Very very baggy indeed.

            --gewg_

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02AM

        You don't, you hypocrite.

        Appending an arbitrary string of characters at the end of your post which any other person could also append to their posts is not "signing" in any meaningful way, shape, of form. The weird thing is that you seem to be aware of this dichotomy, yet unwilling to solve it.
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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:27AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:27AM (#178995)

          It is a unique combination of characters.
          People here are aware of who uses that character string to identify himself.
          Common courtesy would preclude someone else from using that.

          ...then there are certain individuals who have no honor and will sign someone else's name.
          There are circumstances where that is a criminal act.

          -- gewg_

          • (Score: 5, Touché) by Ryuugami on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:05AM

            by Ryuugami (2925) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:05AM (#179038)

            Common courtesy would preclude someone else from using that.

            Ah, you must be new here. Welcome to the Internet.

            :)

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          • (Score: 3, Funny) by Jeremiah Cornelius on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:48PM

            by Jeremiah Cornelius (2785) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:48PM (#179129) Journal

            It'd be funny if Soylent's fork allowed the signing of posts with GPG. Hey!

            What about a Soylent hosted keyserver - where you could register your fake-name?

            I'm onto something here... Where'd you hide the Doritos?

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:43AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:43AM (#178941)

      > But I don't know if it would've been worse if she hadn't been HP CEO. They might have lost 60,000 jobs or gone out of business altogether.

      I was an HP employee long before she showed up and a sub to them managing technical stuff on-site with one of their larger customers during her reign.

      One thing she did with Compaq was lay off much of HP's middle-management and replace them with Compaq middle-management. These were the people most responsible for running Compaq so poorly that HP could afford to buy them.

      • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:37AM

        by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:37AM (#178998) Journal

        Moral, don't put in crappy management? ;-)

        • (Score: 4, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:19AM

          by VLM (445) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:19AM (#179042)

          If your only goal is next quarter's stock price, fire all the good expensive people and hope you're not around when it all crashes down.

          • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:29AM

            by kaszz (4211) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @11:29AM (#179044) Journal

            Guess the deal here is to sell out the citizens and fish for votes. Then leave for a nice job when the citizens get what happens. Then the next president can blame the former one and so on..

            • (Score: 2) by Joe Desertrat on Wednesday May 06 2015, @06:59PM

              by Joe Desertrat (2454) on Wednesday May 06 2015, @06:59PM (#179623)

              Then the next president can blame the former one and so on..

              Or those that elected the former one can relentlessly blame the current one...

  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:24AM

    by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:24AM (#178935) Journal

    No allowance for the time period during which she was there gewg_?

    The tech bubble had just burst in 2000, it was clear Dell and HP and Compaq weren't all three going to survive.
    Everybody's stock went down.
    Everybody shed employees.

    I don't like everything she did at HP, (and neither did the Board), but I don't think you can pin the whole 2000 tech bubble on her alone.

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:44AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @03:44AM (#178942)

      ...and acquiring a failed company was the correct move?
      Clearly not.

      -- gewg_

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:18AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:18AM (#178961)

      Do you know any long time HP employees who were there when she took over? She destroyed something beautiful. She stomped on a corporate butterfly. Why? Stupidity. The stupidity of a child who rips the legs off a newt to see what will happen.

      There are many great entrepreneurs and managers in this country. She does not live in that pantheon. She doesn't deserve to manage a Kansas Arby's let alone the entire country.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by FatPhil on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:05AM

      I knew HP employees in the 2000s. They were dancing in the street after the announcement she'd been booted out. (At least in some German offices, the friends in Irish offices just went to the pub instead.)
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      • (Score: 4, Interesting) by The Archon V2.0 on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44PM

        by The Archon V2.0 (3887) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:44PM (#179149)

        I was working in a Canadian EDS call center - pre-merger - on an HP contract when Carly was there. One of our most abnormally busy weeks (so not counting the week with Dec. 25th) could be, if my corporate masters were to be believed, traced to her corporate reorganizing. Essentially the inkjet printer department no longer had any communication with the ink cartridge department. Used to be that parts of the ink cart group worked with the fax and printer and such people so they could design carts that were asymmetrical and different (color wider than black) and hard to install wrong. After Carly's reforms, the ink cart department made the carts with minimal non-Carly input and the other departments had to change their HW to suit.

        After the change, the ink cart guys started cranking out identical carts (with less ink per cart) and the printers started growing obnoxious little lids and hinges to try make the carts impossible to install wrong. Anyway, the first day a new Deskjet (5550?) came out we found out that the hinged lids weren't very good. They wouldn't lock if you put color in black and vice versa... but they were fine with installing the correct cartridge backwards. And their failure state for the "impossible" condition of "correct cartridge with no electrical contact" was to move the carriage to the cleaning position and lock it. So it never came out, unless you powered on the printer, waited until it was halfway through the startup noises, and yanked the power plug. During that fairly short window the mechanisms would let go of the carriage (and you had to cut power to stop it from RE-locking ten seconds later) and you could move it out manually to where you could change the carts. (The cleaning position was away from the paper path, so out of reach for standard maintenance.)

        We got a lot of calls about that printer the first days it was on sale, and the earliest adopters had the pleasure of hearing good reps tell them to take it back to the store (against policy but kept call time down) or bad reps slowly figuring things out and walking them through it to get them printing.

      • (Score: 2) by frojack on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02PM

        by frojack (1554) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @08:02PM (#179234) Journal

        I imagine that would be true of anyone who's job was under review to be terminated.
        Cost cutters are seldom popular.

        Note: Not saying she helped HP all that much. They were bloated, unprofitable, and heading downward before she got there. They still have a habit of divesting themselves of huge chunks of their business. They are still doing this today. By that standard, she was ahead of her time.

        See http://www.wsj.com/articles/hewlett-packard-to-split-into-two-companies-1412592132 [wsj.com]

        I suspect she didn't hurt HP as much as most people think. And FTR, I doubt she would make a good president, and I doubt she will even get the nomination.

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  • (Score: 2) by LoRdTAW on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:38PM

    by LoRdTAW (3755) on Tuesday May 05 2015, @12:38PM (#179066) Journal

    Lets not forget she spun off their highly respected test equipment division to Agilent. I worked for a guy in college who cursed her for doing that.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:03AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 06 2015, @03:03AM (#179355)

      I work for the current incarnation of the electronic measurement company. There's not much love for Carly, at least among the rank and file.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:35PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @04:35PM (#179145)

    The US is already at that point.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:10PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 05 2015, @05:10PM (#179158)

    disregard this, I suck cocks

    -- gewg_