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posted by CoolHand on Friday May 08 2015, @04:29PM   Printer-friendly
from the giant-sucking-sound dept.

We've previously covered how standby mode in game consoles suck. Well, it seems like many devices across the US are sucking a whole lot of power--$19 Billion/yr worth. That is just the US estimation, it is not extrapolated out across the globe.

Approximately $19 billion worth of electricity, equal to the output of 50 large power plants, is devoured annually by U.S. household electronics, appliances, and other equipment when consumers are not actively using them, according to a ground breaking study released today by the Natural Resources Defense Council.

The report, "Home Idle Load: Devices Wasting Huge Amounts of Electricity When Not in Active Use," found most of the devices either plugged in or hard-wired into America's homes consume electricity around-the-clock, even when the owners are not using them or think they are turned off. The annual cost for this vampire energy drain, which provides little benefit to consumers, ranges from $165 per U.S. household on average to as high as $440 under some utilities' top-tier rates.

"One reason for such high idle energy levels is that many previously purely mechanical devices have gone digital: Appliances like washers, dryers, and fridges now have displays, electronic controls, and increasingly even Internet connectivity, for example," says Pierre Delforge, the report's author and NRDC's director of high-tech sector energy efficiency. "In many cases, they are using far more electricity than necessary."

 
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  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Geezer on Friday May 08 2015, @04:39PM

    by Geezer (511) on Friday May 08 2015, @04:39PM (#180374)

    All the whiz-bang gadgets happily blinking their LED's and chatting away on your wireless router proudly sporting their official "Energy Star" rating decals.

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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Tork on Friday May 08 2015, @04:42PM

    by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 08 2015, @04:42PM (#180376)
    If they're chatting away then they're doing something. Not sure that meets the definition of 'ironic'.
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    • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @04:45PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @04:45PM (#180379)

      Woooooosssssshhhhhhhh.....

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @04:47PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @04:47PM (#180380)
        It's not a wooosh if you have to be ignorant to get it. It's the opposite, in fact.
        • (Score: 1, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @05:08PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @05:08PM (#180386)

          It is if you're too stupid to realize that the "something" they're doing is in itself a waste of energy.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @07:56PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @07:56PM (#180451)
            The device cannot judge the value of the energy it's using. In one case it wastes energy, in another case it's energy well spent. If can you stupid it down to "all same fo efferybuddy!!" then yes, it's ironic, to them.
            • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Saturday May 09 2015, @06:30AM

              by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Saturday May 09 2015, @06:30AM (#180651)

              I'll wager you're a fucking blast at a party.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @09:00PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @09:00PM (#180472)

          As it was explained to me when I was young and "clever": if you have to explain it then it's not funny.

    • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Friday May 08 2015, @05:27PM

      by DeathMonkey (1380) on Friday May 08 2015, @05:27PM (#180393) Journal

      Buy more efficient appliances, electronics, and miscellaneous devices, such as those labeled ENERGY STAR™, whether replacing old models or purchasing new ones;
       
      That's in the source article's call to action. What is the opposite of ironic?

      • (Score: 4, Funny) by GungnirSniper on Friday May 08 2015, @05:38PM

        by GungnirSniper (1671) on Friday May 08 2015, @05:38PM (#180394) Journal

        Rain on your wedding day? A free ride when you've already paid?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @09:03PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @09:03PM (#180475)

        Buy more stuff ... that takes a shit-ton more power/electricity/whatever to manufacture than it will ever save you compared to your existing devices.

        Hmm ... that sure does sound more "green" (green as in cash).

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 09 2015, @08:39AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 09 2015, @08:39AM (#180690)

          This is very much true. Better advice would be think before you buy.

    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by sjames on Friday May 08 2015, @06:00PM

      by sjames (2882) on Friday May 08 2015, @06:00PM (#180400) Journal

      That would be true if what they were chatting wasn't just "I'm still here!" over and over again.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Tork on Friday May 08 2015, @07:48PM

        by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Friday May 08 2015, @07:48PM (#180447)
        That's by design. There's still a reason they're chatty regardless of if the operator is utilizing it properly, something Energy Star cannot possibly regulate. For example: I could burn electricity with my Energy Star Certified CRT monitor with no computer attached, that doesn't make it ironic that it's wasting energy, rather that'd be a reflection on me. What that monitor I have does do is deactivate the CRT if there's nothing to show, it just blinks an LED instead. Yes, I'm burning LED power, but at least the monitor is taking extra steps to minimize the consumption impact of my moronic decision.

        Here's something I'm guilty of right now. The Playstation 4 takes a while to boot up. Because of that the system has a low-power standby mode, when you pick up the controller it only takes a few seconds to get to starting a game. My spare time is valuable so spending less time staring at the Sony logo is better for me. But here's the thing: I've been busy at work. I haven't picked up my PS4 controller in two months. For two months it's been sitting there in standby eating electricity. Is that Sony's fault? Welp, I'm the one paying the electric bill and I say "Nope, I'm the idiot." I see that yellow light. I know that thing wakes up every so often to download software updates. I know there's at least a certain amount of power it eats. I know that I don't have time to mess with it until this project is over. In fact, if I don't turn that off tonight when I get home there are no nice words to describe me. Sony's off the hook.

        If I cannot find a way to make myself a victim here then I cannot see the irony. Sorry.
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        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by mojo chan on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:25AM

          by mojo chan (266) on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:25AM (#180717)

          My Windows 8 laptop can boot from cold to login screen in under 4 seconds. Sony should be able to do better with a fixed hardware platform and custom OS build.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:47AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:47AM (#180721)

            All those rootkits bog them down bro.

          • (Score: 2) by Tork on Saturday May 09 2015, @03:53PM

            by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Saturday May 09 2015, @03:53PM (#180782)
            Out of curiosity , does your laptop have an SSD?
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    • (Score: 3, Interesting) by FatPhil on Saturday May 09 2015, @08:27AM

      by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday May 09 2015, @08:27AM (#180683) Homepage
      It's probably more cynical than it is ironic.

      An ironic situation would be "I know X, I want to communicate X, I say ~X"
      A cynical one would be "I know X, I want to communicate ~X, I say ~X"

      Otherwise known as a "lie", which is sometimes called "the truth" by those in marketting and politics.
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  • (Score: 2) by Anne Nonymous on Friday May 08 2015, @06:09PM

    by Anne Nonymous (712) on Friday May 08 2015, @06:09PM (#180404)

    How many amps do a few blinky LEDs use? 20mA x 10% duty each?

    • (Score: 2) by sjames on Friday May 08 2015, @08:21PM

      by sjames (2882) on Friday May 08 2015, @08:21PM (#180462) Journal

      It's not so much the LEDs as the other parts still running.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @10:10PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Friday May 08 2015, @10:10PM (#180511)

        OS was complaining about der blinkenlights

      • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday May 09 2015, @08:58AM

        by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday May 09 2015, @08:58AM (#180693) Homepage
        PICs which can run simple ramping sequences of multiple LEDs can run on only milliwatts. The CPU can then shut down as soon as it's uploaded the "program" to the PIC.

        Mobile phones have been doing this for ages.
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        • (Score: 2) by mojo chan on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:33AM

          by mojo chan (266) on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:33AM (#180719)

          Sure, but how are you going to power that? You need to take 100-240V 50/60Hz AC (universal power supply) and turn it into 3.3v. Well, more likely you need at least 12v and 3.3v for the system, and anywhere from a few milliwatts to say 300W depending on the load. And it has to be cheap.

          It's not easy to get super low standby power from s PSU.

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          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:39PM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:39PM (#180906) Homepage
            > You need to take 100-240V 50/60Hz AC

            Erm, nope. There's plenty of electronics that works on lower voltages than that. Didn't I already mention mobile phones?
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        • (Score: 2) by sjames on Saturday May 09 2015, @05:51PM

          by sjames (2882) on Saturday May 09 2015, @05:51PM (#180815) Journal

          Sure, they could do that. The point is that they typically don't for devices that are plugged in.

          • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:36PM

            by FatPhil (863) <{pc-soylent} {at} {asdf.fi}> on Saturday May 09 2015, @11:36PM (#180904) Homepage
            My CV says your guess is wrong.
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            • (Score: 2) by sjames on Sunday May 10 2015, @01:44PM

              by sjames (2882) on Sunday May 10 2015, @01:44PM (#181078) Journal

              Mine says it's right.

              Perhaps YOU actually care about such details, buty the many devices that continue to emit significant heat when they are turned "off" suggest you are not in a majority.