SoylentNews is people
SoylentNews
Reuters tells us:
As Jon Stewart winds down his 19-year stint as host of Comedy Central's The Daily Show, he and Stephen Colbert sit at the peak of American punditry despite their left-leaning view of life, the universe and everything.
In an era of diffused voices and divided politics, they are well known, widely admired, and speak to Americans in ways that no one else does, according to a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll.
This poll tracks 10 different pundits. Split evenly between conservative and liberal. It is also worth noting that four of the five on the liberal side are comedians, while none of the conservative pundits are trained to tell jokes.
This discussion has been archived.
No new comments can be posted.
Jon Stewart Stands at the Peak of American punditry
|
Log In/Create an Account
| Top
| 94 comments
| Search Discussion
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
Endless Loop, n.:
see Loop, Endless.
Loop, Endless, n.:
see Endless Loop.
-- Random Shack Data Processing Dictionary
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 11 2015, @05:22PM
This is exactly why the angry old people get paid attention to the most, because they vote. For people like this guy, it is considered cool not to vote. He gets to feel like he's smarter than everyone and make condescending remarks like this, when in fact he is just exposing how much of a dumbshit he is. It does matter and there are differences. Look at Obamacare. That is a huge fucking program that makes a difference to millions of people. Both parties are not of the same mindset. Just because there doesn't seem to be much traction with the issues that you care about doesn't mean the two parties are the same. The same with the media. Just because you don't hear the stories reported such that they jibe with your political viewpoint doesn't mean the media is biased or "bought off."
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 11 2015, @05:32PM
Both parties are similar enough when it comes to matters of freedom and the constitution that they are both worthless. Vote third party or don't bother voting at all, as voting for evil scumbags harms us all. As for me, I'll only vote for candidates that completely oppose mass surveillance (not just the NSA's, but other forms of it like license plate readers and Stringrays), completely oppose the drug war (Not just the war on marijuana; all drugs must be legalized.), oppose DUI checkpoints, want to eliminate the TSA entirely, want to end FCC censorship and all forms of obscenity laws, oppose all forms of warrantless wiretapping, oppose all these wars we're getting ourselves into, oppose constitution-free zones, oppose draconian copyright laws, and just generally want to follow the constitution rather than ignore it to give the government more power. If you vote for candidates that are not like this, you are the problem and it would be better if you don't vote at all.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 11 2015, @06:05PM
I'm fine with not voting at all, but in that case at least turn in a blank fucking ballot.
If you don't show up, they know they can safely ignore you. If you turn in a blank ballot, they don't get to know that. The added time taken is about 30m per year.
Now, if you want to form an educated opinion, that takes longer.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 11 2015, @09:57PM
Some people have been told that there is "mandated voting" in Australia.
Strictly speaking, that isn't true.
You are required to show up at the polls and sign in.
Once they hand you a ballot, you can
- stick that unmarked ballot directly into the box (as you suggest).
- mark every square on the ballot and stick it in the box.
(This is better IMO than a blank ballot that someone with evil intent can easily alter.)
- write FUCK $DAMNED_POLITICIAN in giant letters on it and stick it in the box.
If you don't show up and sign in, there is a fine of an hour or two's wages.
...and isn't it interesting how some people will piss and moan out loud or in an online forum then--when it really counts--don't want their voices heard and don't cast a ballot?
-- gewg_ (who tends to vote 3rd party)
(Score: 1) by Bogsnoticus on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:20AM
An an aussie, I have staunchly defended our compulsory voting regime against all those who have tried to tear it down as an afront to freedom, liberty etc etc.
If you don't cast your vote, you have no legitimate right to piss and moan about the people who end up running the country. They are all too happy to whine loudly about the politicians, but they cant be arsed to do the one thing that matters to try and hold them accountable.
Sure, these days it doesnt seem to matter much whether you vote right, left, centre, or just scrawl "fuck them all sideways with a bargepole" on the ballot form, but at least going in to vote actually shows you give a shit about how you want your country run.
Genius by birth. Evil by choice.
(Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday May 12 2015, @02:34AM
If you don't cast your vote, you have no legitimate right to piss and moan about the people who end up running the country.
That right is called "freedom of speech", and yes, they would have that right if they failed to vote. And no, even if they didn't vote, that wouldn't make their observations incorrect, as arguments stand on their own merit. You might argue that if they want to see things change, they should vote for candidates who will implement changes. I would agree. But saying they don't have a right to complain if they don't vote makes no sense no matter how I look at it.
(Score: 3, Insightful) by tangomargarine on Tuesday May 12 2015, @03:08AM
"Ah, but Mr. Anderson, how can you vote for a candidate who will implement changes, if such a candidate cannot get on the ballot?"
"Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
(Score: 2, Insightful) by Bogsnoticus on Tuesday May 12 2015, @04:27AM
Perhaps you should have read my comment fully, before claiming something that does not exist in the context to which you are replying. I draw your attention to "As an aussie".
Now, unlike the US, we do not have "the right to free speech" enshrined in our constitution. It's not even listed as a common law principle in our country. It is, however, staunchly defended by threat of beating politicians to death with a cricket bat, should they try to remove our "free" speech.
In the US, you may have a "legal" right to whinge, bitch and moan about whoever gets into power, but if all you do is whinge, bitch and moan, instead of acting as a force of change, then that "right" is only a legal one, and not a legitimate one.
Get out and vote. Hold your politicians accountable for their actions towards you, and your society. To do otherwise is the equivalent of telling your parents you're going to hold your breath until they buy you that candy bar.
Genius by birth. Evil by choice.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday May 12 2015, @06:01AM
And, the Aussie wins! Yeah! Now you were saying about internet freedom and not being a nation of criminals, and that Bufo toads are _not_ a problem? But good on ya, mate! Free speech is not free! I like that slogan.
(Score: 1) by Bogsnoticus on Tuesday May 12 2015, @07:26AM
We're not a nation of criminals. We are a nation that has descended/evolved from criminals. Working class criminals I hasten to add.
Upper class criminals (d)evolve into politicians.
Genius by birth. Evil by choice.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday May 12 2015, @07:39AM
Yes, of course. This is why America and Australia have so much in common. They both are equally opposed to Bloody Poms. (Americans don't call them that, but share the sentiment.)
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @07:47PM
...until a baby is born to the royal family.
...or a commoner marries into that inbred lot.
...or that commoner dies in a car wreck.
We fought a revolutionary war to dump the lot but there is a certain portion that still feels a need to fawn over aristocratic overlords.
-- gewg_
(Score: 1) by khallow on Wednesday May 13 2015, @11:54PM
(Score: 2) by Anal Pumpernickel on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:26PM
Perhaps you should have read my comment fully, before claiming something that does not exist in the context to which you are replying. I draw your attention to "As an aussie".
I don't care if you're an aussie, because even you have free speech rights, even if they're not in some constitution.
In the US, you may have a "legal" right to whinge, bitch and moan about whoever gets into power, but if all you do is whinge, bitch and moan, instead of acting as a force of change, then that "right" is only a legal one, and not a legitimate one.
It's fully legitimate either way.
Get out and vote.
I did say that that's a good idea for the people who want change.
(Score: 1, Flamebait) by isostatic on Monday May 11 2015, @11:18PM
If everyone who didn't bother do vote in 2012 had turns up and written "Fuck You", the president with a landslide - twice as many votes as Obama - would be a Chinese bloke. Don't you DARE tell me that voting doesn't work your fucking terrorist commie fascist.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Monday May 11 2015, @10:47PM
That is a huge fucking program that makes a difference to millions of people.
I think the detractors such as myself wholly agree. We just don't agree that the difference is positive. There's a lot of people with pre-existing conditions and whatnot. There's also a lot of people without. And there are other aspects of the economy which we want to have around which are impacted such as every manner of business, the ability of the government to carry out important services like police protection or road systems, and just having a future that is better than the present.
(Score: 2) by GlennC on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:38PM
For people like this guy, it is considered cool not to vote.
That assumes that I don't vote.
Granted, the ballot I turn in is almost completely blank, but I do go to the polls. If there's only an R or a D, I leave it blank.
Depressingly often, there is only one candidate. I leave that one blank as well.
Sorry folks...the world is bigger and more varied than you want it to be. Deal with it.