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posted by mrcoolbp on Tuesday May 12 2015, @12:00PM   Printer-friendly
from the losing-battle dept.

Sweden's highest court has thrown out Julian Assange's appeal against his arrest warrant where he is wanted for questioning. Prosecutor Marianne Ny changed her mind earlier about questioning Assange in London. Assange has repeatedly requested that the questioning take place over the phone or in London as per common practice, to avoid traveling to Sweden where he fears he risks extradition to the US. Sweden has also repeatedly refused to give assurances regarding possible extradition.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by GungnirSniper on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:45PM

    by GungnirSniper (1671) on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:45PM (#181935) Journal

    Was it really rape in the non-Swedish sense of the word? It sounds like the "rape culture" where everything is rape, even regret after the fact makes it rape. It is hugely insulting to victims of violent rape when we debase the word with trivialities.

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  • (Score: 0, Disagree) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:51PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:51PM (#181939)

    this is political. it has nothing to do with rape

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by GreatAuntAnesthesia on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:55PM

    by GreatAuntAnesthesia (3275) on Tuesday May 12 2015, @01:55PM (#181940) Journal

    We'll never know without a fair trial, and thanks to all the ridiculous shenanigans of the Swedish and British authorities (at the behest of the yanks) he will never get one. Any trial that may happen now will be inevitably tainted by perfectly reasonable suspicions of political interference.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @02:00PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @02:00PM (#181943)

    "rape" here means someone forcibly chatting with you when you are after another man. Or losing a chance to sleep with another (richer) man.

    Its similar to the definition for "holocaust", where holocaust also means being made to work: "OMG! I've been working the whole week! My hands are now tired. Its a holocaust", etc.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @03:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @03:04PM (#181954)

      > "rape" here means someone forcibly chatting with you when you are after another man. Or losing a chance to sleep with another (richer) man.

      Uh no. It means agreeing to use a condom and then in the middle of the night initiating sex with a still sleeping person without a condom.

  • (Score: 5, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Tuesday May 12 2015, @03:45PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 12 2015, @03:45PM (#181971) Journal

    Absolutely not. The two "victims" have been less than 100% open and honest, but they have been open and honest enough to state unequivocally that they were NOT RAPED.

    In both cases, the "victims" seduced Assange, not the other way around.
    In both cases, relations were completely consensual.
    In both cases, an apparent good time was had by all involved.
    In both cases, the "victims" requested that Assange use a condom.
    In both cases, Assange complied with that request.
    In both cases, after a good night's sleep, Assange was ready for another go - except that he had no more condoms with him.

    Finally, in both cases, the "victims" accepted Assange's advances despite the lack of a condom.

    According to some things I've read in various places, this violates some social taboo - but it is far, so very far, from constituting any kind of rape.

    No crime was committed, but Assange may have violated a social more.

    That is the "sexual misconduct" case, in it's entirety.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @07:32PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @07:32PM (#182061)

      According to some things I've read in various places

      Yeah, "I read it somewhere on the Internet" is generally NOT a good argument to hang your hat on. The only thing that matters is what does SWEDISH law say, not what you think sounds reasonable.

      Besides, I'm well aware Assange can walk on water, cure the blind, etc. (I'm pretty sure he's said so), so it most definitely couldn't be rape.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Runaway1956 on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:04AM

        by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 13 2015, @01:04AM (#182190) Journal

        Yeah - except both women consented to interviews, and both women are quoted as making the statements. Try some European news sources, and don't limit yourself to US MSM.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @05:28PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @05:28PM (#182007)

    Maybe, maybe not. But the whole thing has been tainted by Assange's "extra special treatment":
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/aug/23/women-against-rape-julian-assange [theguardian.com]

    • (Score: 1) by kurenai.tsubasa on Tuesday May 12 2015, @11:03PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Tuesday May 12 2015, @11:03PM (#182134) Journal

      That was an interesting read, especially this part:

      Whether or not Assange is guilty of sexual violence, we do not believe that is why he is being pursued. Once again women's fury and frustration at the prevalence of rape and other violence, is being used by politicians to advance their own purposes. The authorities care so little about violence against women that they manipulate rape allegations at will, usually to increase their powers, this time to facilitate Assange's extradition or even rendition to the US.

      Perhaps a Brit could chime in with how credible of an organization Women against Rape [wikipedia.org] is. I would have expected, based on the Wikipedia page and having no other knowledge of the organization, that they would have taken the whole initiating sex without a condom while she was sleeping thing and used that to call for Assange's head on a platter.

  • (Score: 2, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @06:43PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 12 2015, @06:43PM (#182046)

    No. In Sweden, when the girl changes her mind after the fact, it's automatically considered rape.