Normally, when I make a post on SoylentNews, it's to talk about some exciting new feature, our future, or something similar.
Unfortunately though, on rare occasions, I have to make announcements like this one. Sometime between May 12-13th, one of our email accounts was breached. The account ("test1") was left over from go live, over a year and half ago, and had a very weak password protecting it. We believe that an automated password guesser was able to find and access the account. Once breached, the account was used to send a significant amount of spam until we deleted the affected account on the 14th May 2015.
As a result of the compromise, several spam services have blacklisted our mail server; we're currently working to try and get ourselves cleared whenever we become aware of one of these blocks. We do not believe any user information or sensitive data was compromised; the account in question was simply a virtual dovecot account with no corresponding UNIX account attached to it.
mechanicjay was primarily responsible for handling this and cleaning up the mess, and I wish to personally thank him and the rest of the sysops team for their handling of this issue. We are looking at taking steps to prevent a reoccurence such as using fail2ban and the like. Unfortunately, most IDS systems like fail2ban are incompatible with IPv6 which we use extensively internally within our network.
A sysops meeting is being scheduled to discuss this and other changes we're making to the infrastructure.
I will update this article (or post a new one) with additional information should it become available,
NCommander
(Score: 3, Informative) by Joe Desertrat on Monday May 18 2015, @06:37PM
Please give us examples of some good comments that were modded down. All I've seen in this thread and others today are a few anti-Gewg and anti-commie rants.
(Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18 2015, @07:06PM
Read the fucking comments here, dipshit. You'll find a comment giving the kind of examples you are looking for. [soylentnews.org]
(Score: 5, Insightful) by Marand on Tuesday May 19 2015, @01:11AM
Oh look, a fine example of an "insightful AC comment" that got "wrongfully" downmoadded that the original poster is complaining about. :)
Protip: being an asshole is a great way to get a flamebait mod -- or "troll" because some people don't grok the difference -- regardless of how insightful or correct the rest of the response is. If you don't like getting downmodded, try not being a dick.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Tuesday May 19 2015, @01:15AM
Yeah, that should be "downmodded" in the first sentence. I know. I missed it in preview.
(Score: 2) by Common Joe on Tuesday May 19 2015, @04:25AM
There's a difference between being an asshole and being sarcastic towards an asshole. Someone else seems to have already given you a point for that. I'm refraining from giving out points to you because I want to see the abuse they are talking about on this sight, and not a flamewar over this topic. (Although I think you deserved the bump up to a 3.) Right now, I'm not seeing many good examples given by the complaining ACs. I'm starting to think most of the ACs are trolling on this topic about trolling.
TL;DR: Don't beat yourself up over this.
(Score: 2) by Marand on Tuesday May 19 2015, @05:01AM
There's a difference between being an asshole and being sarcastic towards an asshole. Someone else seems to have already given you a point for that.
Yep, and it can be a fine line, especially if the person you're responding to wasn't being too horrible to begin with. You might think you're just penning a scathing bit of wit about how completely wrong someone is, but to others you might just come across like a jerk instead. I like making jokes, but usually leave off the excess sarcasm because, more often than not, it just interferes with the point I was trying to make. Sometimes, though, I can't resist. I just assume I'll get downmodded or ignored for it, though, and don't worry about it. :)
Right now, I'm not seeing many good examples given by the complaining ACs. I'm starting to think most of the ACs are trolling on this topic about trolling.
I've seen this "harmful moderation! omg!" thing floating around for a while, and every time I've checked the examples they've been appropriately modded more often than not, except for technicalities over whether it should be marked "troll" vs "flamebait" vs "overrated". Usually it's a case of someone making a good point but lacing it with insults, or saying something inoffensive but fairly off-topic. It's stuff that can easily be solved with a "don't be a dick" proofreading before pressing submit.
Now, what we really need to fix is the quality of trolling on this site. The systemd trolling had some clever moments where the author tied the troll in nicely with the topic -- I saw a few even manage to get upmodded instead of marked offtopic -- but overall the troll quality on SN has been pretty damn poor. Too much same-topic spam and offtopic shitposting, not enough clever trolling.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18 2015, @07:13PM
Here are some bad mods that I saw recently:
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7488&cid=184067 [soylentnews.org]: 0, Flamebait (it was incorrectly modded Troll too)
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7488&cid=184045 [soylentnews.org]: 0, Offtopic (although it is completely on topic)
https://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7488&cid=184071 [soylentnews.org]: 2, Flamebait
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18 2015, @09:46PM
Agreeing with the posters' biases does not make downmoderations to it bad. As for that last one, there's nothing wrong there, thats an example of the community fixed a perceived bad mod; the rest are modded correctly.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18 2015, @11:19PM
They were all modded incorrectly. Whoever moderated them improperly like that should not be allowed to moderate again.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 19 2015, @09:13AM
Whoever moderated them improperly like that should not be allowed to moderate again.
I imagine a hell, fire, dark, Fox News on a TV you cannot turn off, and there, there, are posts on Soylent News that you cannot mod down, even though they are so blatantly wrong, both in fact and in tenor. You strive for the "troll" button, but the harder you strain, the further away it appears to be. No virgins. Hell, no furries. No nothing, and nothing to contribute. And then it hits you, you are not in Hell, you are just an AC on Soylent News, with no mod privileges. Or at least not enough of them. Oh, the suffering. If only someone, perhaps and admin, could feel your pain. But they never seem to care, because they know what you are here for. Godspeed, Improperly modded AC.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Marand on Tuesday May 19 2015, @01:43AM
First one: probably should have been marked "offtopic" instead, but downmodding made sense. Flamebait still makes sense, though, because it reads as a deliberately inflammatory comment. Why else would it have "Shrillary" in there? That's no different than gewg's obsession with derogatory names to use in place of "Microsoft"
Second: It's an article about diet and the AC is, instead, bitching about language semantics. Correctly modded offtopic. Sometimes you can get away with an offtopic or tangential remark like that, but it's a gamble. I've gotten my share of offtopic mods for the same sort of thing.
Third: I don't get the flamebait mod there, but it's only showing "flamebait" on the side because none of the other mod types outnumbered it. Easily fixed by anybody with modpoints that wants to throw another mod on there.
Overall, the system is working well enough. If you were willing to do something other than bitch in AC comments, like make an account, you could actually get the modpoints to fix it yourself. And, before you even try to weasel out of it, you can use an anonymous mailer like guerrillamail.com to sign up, and you can continue to post anonymously even after signing up.
If you really care about the moderation, stop bitching and start fixing. I browse at -1 to fix abuses and upmod good AC comments; do you?
(Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18 2015, @07:49PM
A few more examples of comments that were unfairly modded down:
http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7238&cid=176900 [soylentnews.org]
http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7242&cid=176930 [soylentnews.org]
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http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7272&cid=177792 [soylentnews.org]
http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7276&cid=177858 [soylentnews.org]
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http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7276&cid=177929 [soylentnews.org]
http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7281&cid=178018 [soylentnews.org]
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http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7297&cid=178410 [soylentnews.org]
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http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7309&cid=178923 [soylentnews.org]
http://soylentnews.org/comments.pl?sid=7309&cid=178955 [soylentnews.org]
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 18 2015, @07:55PM
If I'm not mistaken, that's a list of comments that Tork posted as AC.