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After my last SN post the topic of moderation was brought up. Since its been quite awhile since we last openly discussed the state of moderation, I want to give the community a venue to discuss their feelings on it, and if the system needs further refinement. As a reminder, here's a review for how the system is currently setup:
- 5 mod points are handed out to at 00:10 UTC to users with positive karma
- ACs start at +0, users with karma less than 40 post at +1, users above that can post at +2
- You need 10 karma to mark some spam or troll
- Under normal circumstances, the staff do *not* have unlimited mod points, but can (and have) banned abusers of the moderation system
Please also review our SoylentNews Moderation Guidelines.
As always, we are willing to make changes to the system, but please post examples *with* links to any cases of suspected mod abuse. It's a lot easier to justify changing the system when evidence is in black and white. I also recommend that users make serious proposals on changes we can make. I'm not going to color the discussion with my own opinions, but as always, I will respond inline with comments when this goes live, and post a follow up article a few days after this one
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Nasrudin walked into a teahouse and declaimed, "The moon is more useful
than the sun."
"Why?", he was asked.
"Because at night we need the light more."
(Score: 5, Interesting) by wantkitteh on Wednesday May 20 2015, @11:32AM
Would it be feasible to allow the poster of a comment a special ability to mod immediate replies to that comment something like "fair point" or "accepted", giving a clear way for everyone to see that a criticism, correction or argument has been graciously accepted? The aim is to make it immediately evident that something in a comment has been accepted as incorrect by the post author without having to go through the entire comment tree.
(Score: 4, Interesting) by VLM on Wednesday May 20 2015, @12:56PM
What I particularly like about this comment is not so much its content (I have no strong opinion on that topic although its at least somewhat interesting) but the idea that we've had about 10 posts all summarizing to "moderation doesn't seem broke so admins please don't waste your time by prioritize fixing it" and the above post actually ranks the moderation problem in a spectrum, even if it only ranks it as somewhat beneath one specific feature wishlist.
I could list things for awhile I'd worry about before worrying about moderation. Could moderation be improved, well, theoretically yes, but its pretty good and without considerable care will probably get messed up accidentally rather than improved. (oh great, an 11th post along the same theme)
As for the spectrum of to do lists, aka things to worry about before moderation tweaking:
more articles better articles faster articles (not that they're awful now, just saying you'd get more results for your time by tweaking that system rather than moderation)
the current poll is from last month; just sayin. more people might participate in the polls if they were updated frequently? so lack of interest in a month old poll doesn't necessarily mean nobody is interested in polls in general. Speaking of poles (insert stereotypical ethic joke here, no just kidding) this whole article probably should have been a poll not an article. I suspect the percentage of "eh its OK ish" would have been pretty overwhelming without the noise of 11 people posting a prose comment, or rephrased whatever good ideas might be commented wouldn't be buried in the signal to noise ratio.
things that are probably less important than mod system tweaking
the candy bar logo is technically nice, and aesthetically is a very nice candy bar, and on a candy bar discussion web site would be perfectly awesome, but it doesn't exactly scream "soylent news" Of course many logos aren't a good fit to their org but ...
the red color scheme is about one shade too dark
the finances right side bar are depressing. either find some dough by selling blood plasma or cut expenses or stop making it look depressing. Like PBS fund drive.
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Wednesday May 20 2015, @06:38PM
(Score: 2) by NCommander on Wednesday May 20 2015, @10:47PM
I've used a debt card with paypal with no issues before, but almost all US debt cards can be run as credit (and this is true when I've used my debt card in the Eurozone). As we're United States based, we're somewhat limited to payment processors in the United States; otherwise we could be subject to taxes in foreign countries. It is, unfortunately, a cost we simply can't afford at this moment. If we were flush with money, opening a European equivalent of the PBC might be an option, but thats not the case.
Still always moving
(Score: 2) by janrinok on Thursday May 21 2015, @07:29AM