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After my last SN post the topic of moderation was brought up. Since its been quite awhile since we last openly discussed the state of moderation, I want to give the community a venue to discuss their feelings on it, and if the system needs further refinement. As a reminder, here's a review for how the system is currently setup:
- 5 mod points are handed out to at 00:10 UTC to users with positive karma
- ACs start at +0, users with karma less than 40 post at +1, users above that can post at +2
- You need 10 karma to mark some spam or troll
- Under normal circumstances, the staff do *not* have unlimited mod points, but can (and have) banned abusers of the moderation system
Please also review our SoylentNews Moderation Guidelines.
As always, we are willing to make changes to the system, but please post examples *with* links to any cases of suspected mod abuse. It's a lot easier to justify changing the system when evidence is in black and white. I also recommend that users make serious proposals on changes we can make. I'm not going to color the discussion with my own opinions, but as always, I will respond inline with comments when this goes live, and post a follow up article a few days after this one
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(Score: 2) by Leebert on Wednesday May 20 2015, @04:31PM
Well, the implication is that the original moderation is incorrect and the post is NOT a troll. As such, aside from the OCD issue of having something labeled incorrectly, and the general impoliteness of it, it messes with users who may have a "Reason Modifer" set on their comments preferences.
There may be other subtle issues I'm not aware of.
(Score: 2, Interesting) by c0lo on Wednesday May 20 2015, @09:09PM
On the contrary, to me it signifies "An excellent troll, hat tip for it" (a subtle troll, still inflammatory, but not due to language or offensive position towards others, most probably a very controversial view of a slice of life).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Leebert on Wednesday May 20 2015, @10:10PM
Pardon my use of my last mod point of the day for an object lesson, but it was the best way I could think of to make the clear point that ANYTHING can be moderated Troll, even if it isn't.
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 21 2015, @01:08AM
So what? I would agree this would be a problem if it would happen on very frequent basis - but then, this is the last problem one needs to address (as such a behaviour would show a dysfunctional community).
But as it happens occasionally, what's so important? The "5 mod points daily" ensure that in most of the cases the bad/vengeful Troll modding is corrected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by Leebert on Thursday May 21 2015, @01:32AM
*shrug* I see it is a problem. You don't.
I only said something because they asked. I'm not out to convince you, I was just responding to your original "so what?" question.
If you don't understand why I think it matters now, then I can't really explain it any better. If you DO understand, then it's just a matter of opinion, which I was keeping to myself until someone specifically asked for opinions.
Best to just leave it at that. Fair enough? :)
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday May 21 2015, @01:47AM
Yeap - agreed. Anyway, thanks for the opinion exchange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1) by anubi on Thursday May 21 2015, @06:44AM
Well, some trolls are *really* good! [soylentnews.org]
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]