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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the what's-in-its-pocketses dept.

Over at ghacks, Martin Brinkmann writes:

Mozilla has added Pocket, a third-party "save for later" service, to Firefox Beta (and other development channels of the browser).

This is based on the proprietary former addon pocket, which is now no longer supported since it is being integrated.

It's only the beta channel, but this has all the hallmarks of a half-baked revenue stream for Mozilla that ultimately sells out user privacy - and what's worse, is opt-out, rather than opt-in.

Sponsored tiles on the new tab page, changing default search settings during updates, surrendering on DRM, and now this... Mozilla keeps finding ways to make it hard to stay a supporter. Here's hoping they hear some feedback on this decision before it gets out of beta!

What are the best available browser options for users wanting to protect their privacy as much as possible, as well as run a bloat-free browser? Pale Moon? Midori?

 
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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by ikanreed on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:33PM

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:33PM (#185665) Journal

    But some proprietary plugins won't work with Pale Moon. (Like, say, hangouts video chat). So it's even more like those early days where the corporate shit didn't work on good browsers.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by bob_super on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:41PM

    by bob_super (1357) on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:41PM (#185670)

    I've got multiple browsers installed. You don't have the do everything in one. Copy-paste isn't hard, when you need some page which doesn't like a specific browser.
    Also, if you have any google plugin, the idea of a privacy-violating extension doesn't seem to phase you, so you can stay on FF.

    • (Score: 4, Informative) by Tork on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:46PM

      by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:46PM (#185676)
      I like multiple browsers so that a fair chunk of the browsing I'm doing isn't on a browser logged in to Google, Facebook, eBay, etc.
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      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Open4D on Thursday May 21 2015, @04:09PM

        by Open4D (371) on Thursday May 21 2015, @04:09PM (#186058) Journal

        Me too.

        It is worth noting that this is also possible without using multiple browsers. I have several Firefox profiles, which can be in use simultaneously. (And it seems that something similar is also possible in Chrome.) http://www.howtogeek.com/209320/how-to-set-up-and-use-multiple-profiles-user-accounts-in-firefox/ [howtogeek.com]

         
        I actually think this kind of website separation should be made a fundamental part of the browsing experience, rather than something only geeks ever do (and only when they can be bothered with the hassle). From a user perspective, just because I'm logged in to Facebook, shouldn't mean that a visit with the same web browser to randomsite.com results in Random Site Inc. or Facebook learning anything extra about me. That kind of thing should only happen if I have a specific or general opt-in.

        • (Score: 2) by Tork on Thursday May 21 2015, @05:23PM

          by Tork (3914) Subscriber Badge on Thursday May 21 2015, @05:23PM (#186104)
          I learned my lesson when I started seeing ads in Facebook for stuff I searched for on eBay.
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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2015, @08:24PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 20 2015, @08:24PM (#185692)

    I use Pale moon for 95% of what I do with about 50 tabs open at any given time (all being used, don't ask.) For when I need something which can't be done in it (or can't be done b/c of my various blocker extensions) I use chromium. You don't have to just use one browser, but Pale Moon has completely replaced Firefox for me. I even moved my firefox profile to palemoon and it worked right out of the box with minimal tweaks.

  • (Score: 1) by archshade on Wednesday May 20 2015, @08:38PM

    by archshade (3664) on Wednesday May 20 2015, @08:38PM (#185699)

    But some proprietary plugins won't work with Pale Moon. (Like, say, hangouts video chat).

    Hangouts video chat works fine for me*, I'm using palemoon (25.3.2) on arch. Vimperator too (would not be using it if it did not).

    *One slightly weird effect and I'm not sure if it caused by PM or Vimperator hangouts starts in a tab rather than a minimal window (I can force start into a new widow but that's a full window), This leads to my tab bar showing (which I have at the bottom) when in full screen mode. A minor anoyance as I can cope with having tens of pixels eaten by a tab bar.

    YMMV but I have found PM works with every add-on I use (which is not many but enough that my work flow would change radically is I used anything but a firefox derivative.

  • (Score: 2) by JNCF on Thursday May 21 2015, @01:30AM

    by JNCF (4317) on Thursday May 21 2015, @01:30AM (#185838) Journal

    But some proprietary plugins won't work with Pale Moon. (Like, say, hangouts video chat).

    Probably because the video chat uses WebRTC, which the PaleMoon guy removed after polling his user-base. They see it as bloat, and a security issue. I haven't used PaleMoon since realising this; I think peer-to-peer browser communications are fundamentally awesome. Sending your data through a server when you really just want it to go to a peer seems like its own bag of worms.