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posted by CoolHand on Wednesday May 20 2015, @07:04PM   Printer-friendly
from the what's-in-its-pocketses dept.

Over at ghacks, Martin Brinkmann writes:

Mozilla has added Pocket, a third-party "save for later" service, to Firefox Beta (and other development channels of the browser).

This is based on the proprietary former addon pocket, which is now no longer supported since it is being integrated.

It's only the beta channel, but this has all the hallmarks of a half-baked revenue stream for Mozilla that ultimately sells out user privacy - and what's worse, is opt-out, rather than opt-in.

Sponsored tiles on the new tab page, changing default search settings during updates, surrendering on DRM, and now this... Mozilla keeps finding ways to make it hard to stay a supporter. Here's hoping they hear some feedback on this decision before it gets out of beta!

What are the best available browser options for users wanting to protect their privacy as much as possible, as well as run a bloat-free browser? Pale Moon? Midori?

 
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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by tangomargarine on Wednesday May 20 2015, @10:07PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday May 20 2015, @10:07PM (#185752)

    I'm just going to keep saying "they have a Linux build of Pale Moon" until people start noticing.

    -posted from Linux Pale Moon

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  • (Score: 2) by vux984 on Wednesday May 20 2015, @10:50PM

    by vux984 (5045) on Wednesday May 20 2015, @10:50PM (#185772)

    Yeah it exists; i'd discounted it as it looks to a 3rd party build/fork of a project that is already pretty niche. I was skeptical how well it ran as a primary browser as opposed to it being something pretty experimental.

    PaleMoon has android and OSX builds as well... the android page has a note about them not having the resources to maintain it; and invites people to get involved.
    http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-android.shtml [palemoon.org]

    And the OSX build has a note that its still "very much in development".

    I'm cool with playing around with these sort of things in my spare time; but I want a solid browser I can rely on too; one that isn't wildly experimental or unstable; one that I can install on my mother's PC and walk away with confidence that it'll just work, be easy to keep up to date, etc.

    As much as I am very cheesed about Firefox going freemium; I'm not really sure palemoon is the best possible answer. Plus palemoon seems to me to be a relatively small scale one man show (moonchild); not that that's a bad thing in and of itself; but if the project goes on vacation when he does; or falls off the web when he does... Ideally I'd like something with a bit more backing.

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday May 20 2015, @11:42PM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday May 20 2015, @11:42PM (#185795)

      I've been using Pale Moon for around the last year now and if anything it seems *more* stable than Firefox.

      Plus at least your grandmother won't keep getting confused when Mozilla decides to completely rearrange the interface every 6 months or whatever.

      --
      "Is that really true?" "I just spent the last hour telling you to think for yourself! Didn't you hear anything I said?"
    • (Score: 2) by acharax on Thursday May 21 2015, @12:00AM

      by acharax (4264) on Thursday May 21 2015, @12:00AM (#185806)

      I've been using it in both Windows and Linux for a long time now and never noticed any problems or differences between the two versions. However you might have some trouble with their makeshift Linux installer (they should really set up a repo for it, if there is one by now excuse my ignorance) if you're using a stripped/locked down distro (the information about the issue I was able to find online was misleading at the time but it was nothing that was all too difficult to figure out with some digging).

    • (Score: 2) by kadal on Thursday May 21 2015, @09:46PM

      by kadal (4731) on Thursday May 21 2015, @09:46PM (#186213)

      I've been using PaleMoon for close to two years now. It's great!

      Some addons have trouble because PaleMoon isn't going down the Australis part. BUT NoScript, Tree Style Tabs, BluHell Firewall, Request Policy Enhanced, CleanLinks, RefControl all work.

      There's a fork of HTTPS-Everywhere called Encrypted Web [github.com] that you should use instead. Unfortunately, I don't think Firemacs still works.

  • (Score: 1) by mmh on Thursday May 21 2015, @04:18AM

    by mmh (721) on Thursday May 21 2015, @04:18AM (#185884)

    Seconded! I use Pale Moon for both Linux and Windows as my primary browser, in fact with the same user profile. Everything works the same as Firefox. Only exception I've found is: The addon "TabMixPlus" works perfectly in Windows/Palemoon, doesn't do anything in Linux/Palemoon.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 21 2015, @06:47AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday May 21 2015, @06:47AM (#185919)

      Sounds like it might contain a binary, up until recently Mozilla allowed that.

  • (Score: 1) by termigator on Thursday May 21 2015, @04:30PM

    by termigator (4271) on Thursday May 21 2015, @04:30PM (#186075)

    Does Palemoon still exclude the accessibility features that Firefox has? This is the primary reason I never switched to it.

    • (Score: 2) by kadal on Thursday May 21 2015, @09:53PM

      by kadal (4731) on Thursday May 21 2015, @09:53PM (#186218)

      I don't use those features but here's some info from the main dude [palemoon.org]

      Pale Moon supports full accessibility features as one can expect from a browser, like caret browsing, adaptation to high-contrast themes, etc. -- but what it does not support is specialized hardware for the severely disabled. This has been a choice since day 1 of its publication, and falls in line with another key statement about the Pale Moon browser: that it does not attempt to cater to all possible usage scenarios, but instead tries to find a sane balance between features and performance/stability.