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posted by CoolHand on Friday May 22 2015, @03:24PM   Printer-friendly
from the whats-dat-whatsapp dept.

Chechnya's leader Ramzan Kadyrov has urged men to stop their wives from using WhatsApp after anger over a police chief's forced marriage to a 17-year-old spread on the messaging service:

"Lock them in, do not let them go out, then they will not post anything," Ramzan Kadyrov was quoted as saying. Mr Kadyrov had earlier backed a police chief's marriage to a 17-year-old, even though he was already married, in apparent violation of Russian laws. His chief of staff has since proposed legalising polygamy in Chechnya.

Mr Kadyrov, an authoritarian leader and close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, has in recent years outlawed the abduction of brides and underage marriage. He is also thought to be in favour of polygamy. His top aide Magomed Daudov said: "It all has to be in keeping with Sharia: But if a man can support more than one wife, then why not?"

Before Saturday's ceremony, local media reported that police chief Nazhud Guchigov, 47, had prevented Kheda Goylabiyeva from leaving her home and threatened her family with reprisals if they did not hand her over.

Mr Kadyrov denounced discussion of the marriage on WhatsApp in comments broadcast on local state-run TV. "Stop. Behave like Chechens," he was reported as saying. "The family honour is the most important thing. Do not write such things. Men, do take your women out of WhatsApp." Last week he took to his Instagram account to criticise Russian media coverage of the marriage as "this fuss ordered by some liberals". "The girl's parents gave their blessing to this marriage," he claimed, arguing that reports to the contrary were filled with lies.

 
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  • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Friday May 22 2015, @05:56PM

    by tangomargarine (667) on Friday May 22 2015, @05:56PM (#186569)

    It's curious, of course, how different their customs are from a typical Christian, Western way of life. But they have their right to peacefully live as they want, don't they?

    Whether they're "living in peace" when they kill their own wives for dishonoring them (see above) is rather debatable.

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  • (Score: 4, Interesting) by tftp on Friday May 22 2015, @06:12PM

    by tftp (806) on Friday May 22 2015, @06:12PM (#186579) Homepage

    Whether they're "living in peace" when they kill their own wives for dishonoring them (see above) is rather debatable.

    Imagine that they are an isolated, alien society ("civilization B") that lives in a glass bubble. They do not cross the border and attack you, and you don't cross the border and attack them. (I said "imagine" :-)

    Given this scenario, would civilization A be justified [wikipedia.org] in enforcing its own morals and ways of life onto the civilization B? Does it matter if civilizations A and B are separated by 100 light years or by 100 miles? Does it matter if A and B share some of the genetic code? Would members of A be able to deal with tourists from B?

    • (Score: 2) by rts008 on Friday May 22 2015, @07:12PM

      by rts008 (3001) on Friday May 22 2015, @07:12PM (#186603)

      Forget you imaginary scenario-it does not exist, or apply to this case at all.

      If they were truly isolated, then we would not have even heard of this to be having this discussion.
      Since they are not isolated, the rest of the world can have an opinion about it. And the rest of the world can impose sanctions, refuse aide and trade, enact border restrictions, etc.

      • (Score: 2, Insightful) by tftp on Friday May 22 2015, @07:32PM

        by tftp (806) on Friday May 22 2015, @07:32PM (#186618) Homepage

        I don't understand your position. Do you mean that you will start a war with Mars if you learn that Martians, who look exactly like humans, are customarily eating 10% of their children, and you learned about that from a TV report from Mars, where a Martian reporter mentioned it as a matter of fact? If so, be ready for an invasion from Mars because they, obviously, have a symmetrical problem with you.

        Would you be happy if those Martians come to Earth and force you to do things that are contrary to your civilization and your way of life?

        • (Score: 3, Insightful) by rts008 on Friday May 22 2015, @08:20PM

          by rts008 (3001) on Friday May 22 2015, @08:20PM (#186652)

          LOL!!
          Now we are getting invaded by Martians?

          You don't understand my position because I have not stated one for this issue.

          And because you don't understand, you throw more FUD out...Martians, indeed.

          A rational and/or reasonable person would ask me what me position is, instead of just going off the deep end with Fox News style FUD, well, because MARTIANS!!!OMG!!!

          Now that I 'have your measure', I will decline to debate Martians with you, and leave you to your delusions/fantasies and bid you 'Good Day'. Bye.

    • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:23AM

      by tangomargarine (667) on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:23AM (#187104)

      The question of whether interference is justifiable becomes a lot easier to answer when the issue being discussed is people being killed.

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