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posted by n1 on Saturday May 23 2015, @01:01AM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-wrongs dept.

Only once in a while does an Internet censorship law or regulation come along that is so audacious in its scope, so misguided in its premises, and so poorly thought out in its execution, that you have to check your calendar to make sure April 1 hasn't come around again. The Draft Online Regulation Policy recently issued by the Film and Publication Board (FPB) of South Africa is such a regulation. It's as if the fabled prude Mrs. Grundy had been brought forward from the 18th century, stumbled across hustler.com on her first excursion online, and promptly cobbled together a law to shut the Internet down. Yes, it's that bad.

But don't just take our word for it—read some of its provisions for yourself. First, the regulation applies, in the first instance, to films and games (regardless of subject matter), as well as to publications containing certain loosely-described forms of sex, violence and hate speech.

What kind of content might we be talking about here? Much of the preamble of the document talks about sex. Indeed, sex sells, and it sells censorship legislation as well as it sells cigarettes and soft drinks. However the regulation, even on its face, goes much further. Its background section gives an example of non-sexual videos that, even under the current law, were issued a classification by the FPB—videos depicting a Pretorian pastor "ordering members of his congregation, some of whom were minors, to graze like cattle and drink petrol to prove that humans can eat anything provided by God". Under the new proposed regulation, the FPB could simply order such videos—which are obviously newsworthy—to be removed from the Internet.

Of course, there is much more - so read and be grateful that, unless you live in South Africa, things are never quite as bad as they might seem...

 
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  • (Score: 1, Troll) by aristarchus on Saturday May 23 2015, @07:21AM

    by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday May 23 2015, @07:21AM (#186782) Journal

    There is no greater representative of humanity than South Africa. Many nations have gone through massive injustice and revolution, but none so much or so recently as South Africa. I cut them slack. The entire "Truth and Reconciliation" process is deemed a failure by some, but any nation that could insist on justice rather than revenge deserves the respect of the rest of the world. Having survived Apartheid, and emerged into a nation where Nelson Mandela could be elected president, that speaks volumes. No doubt there are details to be worked out. But South Africa did pass a law making it illegal for any of its citizens to be mercenaries. If only the UK could be so much in compliance with the International Conventions on the the same. So I don't think that this initiative is definitive, perhaps a fallback to the Afrikaaners and the Dutch Reformed (_read_ more batshit than any American Christian sect) church. How do you think that Holland stayed so liberal? They exported all their wackos to southern Africa. Europe owes Southern Africa an Apology, but I am confident that they will eventually work it out, on their own.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @08:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @08:55AM (#186801)

    perhaps a fallback to the Afrikaaners

    I'm sorry I have to say this: Fuck you too.

    • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday May 23 2015, @05:51PM

      by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday May 23 2015, @05:51PM (#186910) Journal

      I'm sorry! Did I touch a nerve?

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @06:40PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @06:40PM (#186924)

        I hate the Broederbond. So do all of my friends be they white or black. They had their period in power where they decreed that they would copy the American system. They gerrymandered the hell out of the country; locked up and exiled people for opposing them. Their (initially secret) organisation ruled both church and state with an iron fist. Everything was censored.

        After bankrupting the government, they had a sudden change of heart and allowed a referendum in which your evil Afrikaners said they wanted change. What we got was a negotiated deal where the jerks responsible don't get prosecuted and the rest have to live under a new system of racial classification and discrimination. Which it must be said is still much better than the old one but getting worse by the day.

        Of course there were people who ate up the propaganda and enjoyed the economic status that came with being white. The moderator of the Big Bad Dutch Reformed Church [wikipedia.org] had his brains blown out for opposing the system. That's no different from any other place on Earth. Those pigs split off from the Dutch Reformed Church into their own little Apartheid-church (Afrikaanse Protestantse Kerk) and they can all go to hell.

        Your sarcastic apology underlines your prejudice. You accuse me and my entire ethnic group of supporting a racist system and you can't see the bloody irony. You accuse my people of being the distilled evil of Europe. Right, that wasn't racism.

        If that's how you feel, you can go to hell with the Verwoerd and the Broederbond, the ANC, the APK and the British Empire which put these Broederbond assholes in charge.

        • (Score: 2) by aristarchus on Saturday May 23 2015, @07:17PM

          by aristarchus (2645) on Saturday May 23 2015, @07:17PM (#186934) Journal

          Wow! That's a big nerve! And I evidently spoke without sufficient knowledge, my apology is not meant to be sarcastic.

          You have remedied some of my ignorance, what are your thoughts on the proposed policy?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @08:15PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @08:15PM (#186953)

            I apologise for misunderstanding your apology. I misunderstood the sentiment with which you said that you "struck a nerve". Such is the nature of written comunication. Of course I should not entirely blame you for the enormous amount of anti-Afrikaner sentiment that went along with the global opposition to Apartheid. And as I said, some of my people are racist jerks. There are also more than a few idiots who heard from Daddy that Apartheid wasn't as bad as the ANC. (Daddy wasn't black, of course.) They make life intolerable for the rest of us whiteys, who must face the wrath of anyone they've wronged. (It would sound familiar if you were a minority.)

            The new FPB rules are terrible but not my greatest concern. Just after the Wikileaks debacle we got a brand new censorship law. Under it any government department can declare any information a state secret. Public interest is not an excuse and it doesn't matter if the information is already public: It is simply a crime to talk to anyone about anything they say you can't. Longer sentence than murder. This law (the Protection of State Information Bill [wikipedia.org]) has been passed but the Prez, corrupt as he may usually be, sent it back and refused to sign it as-is. There is much corruption in the government and it is viewed by many (guess who's one) as simply a way to ban disclosure of officials' crimes.

            Online pornography is already illegal under another law from a few years back. (Porn isn't illegal per se but it is illegal to get it anywhere but a licenced adult store. I doubt many people adhere to the law on this point; certainly not from what I've seen on their computers.)

            The EFF makes a common beginner mistake in their interpretation of our constitution. If you read it carefully, you will see that it gives the Party carte blanche. (My favourite part of the constitution is how "discrimination [based on race, sex...] is unfair unless it is decided that it is fair". I.e. "we can do what we want but let's make it sound like we can't".) It has happened previously that the Party openly says that by letting the public complain about a new law they comply with the requirement for public participation: The actual feedback does not have force of law. Not to mention the Party regularly brings busloads of their members to "public" participation meetings, who shout down anyone with concerns. Since there is effectively only one party in parlaiment (long story for another day), whatever gets decided in Luthuli House goes in the law books so I don't doubt that both these censorship laws will go in. They may be reworded a little if the Party doesn't want to look too bad. Refer to the part about the constitution above.

            PS: I'm technically half Dutch anyway. Wanna guess where all the crazy religious ideologies in the family are?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @09:04AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday May 23 2015, @09:04AM (#186806)

    We should we deny someone the freedom to be a mercenary?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @04:29AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @04:29AM (#187074)

      Because mercenaries are scum.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:25AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:25AM (#187091)

    Oh hello - you finally got it Mr West. 30 years ago S.Africa was the evil empire, but every black person had a home, access to schools, medical care and a job, or reasonable prospects for one. Then it was decided the UN and the West knew better than gradually raising the people in education and economic status. In another generation things would have integrated themselves, peacefully. And now after 20 years of "freedom" and "democracy" little is left. Infrastructure is falling apart, crime and corruption are rampant, and now nobody gives a darn.
    You are right that Europe, and the UK and USA, owe S.Africa a huge apology. Tell that to the thousands of farmers and their families who are murdered every year. Tell that to the Police who at one point were burying several officers a week. S.Africa is now not far better off than N.Korea - Zuma is a dictator pleased only if he can get another new Mercedes or another new wife. The country - ah, who cares.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:56AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:56AM (#187110)

      ...and here come the above mentioned idiots who heard from Daddy that Apartheid was so much better than the ANC. Taking us from the frying pan right back into the fire. Do yourself a favour and ask your maid what it was like to starve.

  • (Score: 2) by FatPhil on Sunday May 24 2015, @09:28AM

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxEweP2TiMk
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