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posted by n1 on Sunday May 24 2015, @04:20PM   Printer-friendly
from the RTFA dept.

When we hear the word "multiculturalism," some imagine people of all races and creeds holding hands, others imagine a clash of disparate cultures that cannot co-exist. There are many more nuanced definitions in between.

In the world of mainstream politics, there is now widespread acknowledgment that the failure of immigrants to properly integrate into the culture of their host nations is causing a lot more harm that good. The backlash against multiculturalism has begun to manifest itself as a rise of nationalist parties such as England's UKIP and France's National Front gaining more support from disillusioned countrymen.

In 2010 German Chancellor Angela Merkel declared that,

" This [multicultural] approach has failed, utterly failed," Merkel told the meeting in Potsdam, west of Berlin, yesterday. "

Merkel also suggested that the onus was on immigrants to do more to integrate into German society, and late last year the European Court of Justice ruled that EU citizens who move to another member state "solely in order to obtain social assistance" may be excluded from receiving that assistance, an acknowledgement that multiculturalism's side effects are causing more harm than good.

Those interested in this topic should read Foreign Affairs' excellent article The Failure of Multiculturalism.

As a political tool, multiculturalism has functioned as not merely a response to diversity but also a means of constraining it. And that insight reveals a paradox. Multicultural policies accept as a given that societies are diverse, yet they implicitly assume that such diversity ends at the edges of minority communities. They seek to institutionalize diversity by putting people into ethnic and cultural boxes—into a singular, homogeneous Muslim community, for example—and defining their needs and rights accordingly. Such policies, in other words, have helped create the very divisions they were meant to manage.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Hairyfeet on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:10PM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:10PM (#187231) Journal

    Sigh....let me point out this teeny tiny fact,mmmkay? RACE is different colors, be it white black green WTF ever, and CULTURE is an identity that a group, whatever color they may or may not be, has CHOSEN to assume.

    For an example of why culture can be a bad thing? Just look at the ample evidence that the current culture of the American black, which glorifies violence and gangs, drugs, abusing women and abandoning children, while condemning those that actually try to get an education or better themselves as "cooning" and "acting white" has become so toxic that the #1 cause of death among young black males? **-OTHER BLACK MALES. [huffingtonpost.com] That's a rate 6 times higher than white males of the same age bracket BTW, which should be a good indicator of the difference between a culture that glorifies the image of the violent thug and one that does not. When black men like David Carroll and Tommy Sotomayor point out the insanity going on in the black community (as Mr Sotomayor put it "black boys are being raised without fathers, without rules, and are killing each other for nothing but dumb shit") they are attacked as an "Uncle Tom", Sotomayor got death threats to the point he carries a gun, and for what? Pointing out that a culture that "only respects you if you are hard" and glorifies "thug life" is destroying them?

    So I hope you can now tell the difference between RACE and CULTURE, because there is a pretty big difference.

    **- BTW don't you just loooove how they try to make excuses, like "its because they are poor" while ignoring the fact that the poorest place in America is white which is the VA coal mining region and despite have very lax gun laws compared to places like DC and Chicago their homicide rate is extremely low? Its not poverty, not race, that is killing the black community, its a culture that practically worships violent behavior while constantly preaching a permanent victimhood political narrative. This is why in every video where he sees a sign being held up saying "black lives matter" Mr Sotomayor says "only when that life is taken by a white person, otherwise it isn't worth anything".

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  • (Score: 2, Funny) by Runaway1956 on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:26PM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:26PM (#187252) Journal

    Oh my, Hairy. You've stepped in it now. No one EVER wins one of these arguments when they point out obvious truths. Stand by to be blasted from all sides!

    • (Score: -1, Troll) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:05PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:05PM (#187283)

      > Stand by to be blasted from all sides!

      And you've hit on the most obvious truth of the post...
      All hairy wants is to be the center of a bukake circle.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by Hairyfeet on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:28PM

      by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:28PM (#187300) Journal

      Let 'em. I am a socialist leftie from the 70s, when we actually believed in judging people by the content of their character and not by some Oppression Olympics [wikia.com]. We believed in actually looking at problems and trying to SOLVE those problems, not make excuses. this is why I have to LMAO at those that claim they are championing "justice" for minorities as their group has become so hate filled and fucking racist there is actually a game called SJW or Stormfront [youtube.com] because their writings are so filled with venom its hard to tell the difference between their posts and those from white supremacist websites.

      We've been pretending the culture isn't an issue for damned near 40 years...has things gotten any better? Has the violence gone down? Number of children raised without fathers gone down? When you have Jessie Jackson saying he's more afraid of running into black teens than whites at night? [theracecardproject.com] I'm sorry but your culture is fucked up!

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      • (Score: 5, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @08:01PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @08:01PM (#187322)

        > We've been pretending the culture isn't an issue for damned near 40 years...has things gotten any better? Has the violence gone down?

        Yes. Dramatically. A nearly two-thirds reduction. [wikipedia.org] Today's black violent crime rate is even one third less than the white violent crime rate of the 70s.

        Will that change your mind about anything? I'm guessing, no it won't. I bet you just keep right on believing that black people are just as violent as ever. You'll ignore this inconvenient fact and stick to your imaginary world. That is the definition of bigotry, after all -- an obstinate or intolerant devotion to his or her own opinions and prejudices; [merriam-webster.com]

        • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Monday May 25 2015, @12:41AM

          by Nerdfest (80) on Monday May 25 2015, @12:41AM (#187430)

          You may want to take unleaded fuel into that equation as well though.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @03:42AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @03:42AM (#187503)

          I bet you just keep right on believing that black people are just as violent as ever

          It's kind of beside the point, isn't it? So long as they remain several times more likely to be violent criminals than anyone else you should happen to run into, keeping them away from your home and family makes sense.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @09:12AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @09:12AM (#187560)

            So long as they remain several times more likely to be violent criminals than anyone else you should happen to run into, keeping them away from your home and family makes sense.

            You're talking about Texans, here?

            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:47PM

              by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:47PM (#188225)

              unfortunately, Texans aren't as easily ferreted out with a quick glance. if we could just cure the white skin pigment disease then the world would be nothing but kittens, puppies, and daffodils.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @07:46AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @07:46AM (#187544)

      {Secret ComaPodensis task force directive} Mod this and the parent up! Hairyfeet is a valued member of the team!

  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:46PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @06:46PM (#187270)

    while condemning those that actually try to get an education or better themselves as "cooning" and "acting white" has become so toxic that the #1 cause of death among young black males? **-OTHER BLACK MALES.

    Wow. I guess I need to get around on the net more because that's the first time I've seen someone blame black-on-black violence on "acting white."
    Which itself is a total myth. [vox.com]

    BTW don't you just loooove how they try to make excuses, like "its because they are poor" while ignoring the fact that the poorest place in America is white which is the VA coal mining region

    Where population density is some of the lowest in the country? [arc.gov]
    Yeah, life is complex but bigots only see what they want to see.

  • (Score: 4, Informative) by frojack on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:12PM

    by frojack (1554) on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:12PM (#187289) Journal

    Well said, this is the as one well written black author called it, The Inconvenient Truth about Ghetto Communities’ Social Breakdown [nationalreview.com]

    You cannot take any people, of any color, and exempt them from the requirements of civilization without ruinous consequences to them and to society at large.

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    • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:36PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday May 24 2015, @07:36PM (#187307)

      Holy crap is that article myopic and worded in a way to obscure rather than reveal truth.

      For example he says, "Murder rates among black males were going down — repeat, down — during the much-lamented 1950s, while it went up after the much celebrated 1960s." Yet violent crime in general among blacks has been trending downwards since at least 1973 [wikipedia.org] (as far back as I could find data). Where they no longer "exempted" from the requirements of civilization in the 70s? Or is only that murderers get a special exemption?

      That guy seems like he's pushing an agenda rather than trying to inform.

      • (Score: 4, Informative) by Reziac on Monday May 25 2015, @04:33AM

        by Reziac (2489) on Monday May 25 2015, @04:33AM (#187516) Homepage

        Crime has gone down for everyone in America. Naturally that includes blacks in the gangsta culture. But their crime rate is still higher than for people (of any race) afflicted with less self-destructive cultures.

        But are you aware that Dr.Sowell is black?

        And that he's been studying and writing about this stuff for decades?

        If he has an agenda, it's getting his fellow blacks to pull their heads out of their victim-mentality asses and see what they're doing to themselves.

        http://tsowell.com/ [tsowell.com]
        in particular, see
        http://tsowell.com/cv.html [tsowell.com]
        and
        http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell1.asp [jewishworldreview.com]

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @04:41AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @04:41AM (#187518)

          > But are you aware that Dr.Sowell is black?

          Yes, so what. Are you implying some sort of tokenism?

          > And that he's been studying and writing about this stuff for decades?

          Well, all I know is he lied with statistics on the first time I ever met him. So that is a hell of a bad first impression.

          > If he has an agenda, it's getting his fellow blacks to pull their heads out of their victim-mentality asses and see what they're doing to themselves.

          What people say their agenda is and what they actually do aren't necessarily the same thing. I am sure he believes he's doing that. Some people think deliberately lying is a useful tool to accomplish their goals. It only works when they don't get caught...

          • (Score: 1, Flamebait) by aristarchus on Monday May 25 2015, @08:07AM

            by aristarchus (2645) on Monday May 25 2015, @08:07AM (#187546) Journal

            > But are you aware that Dr.Sowell is black?

            Are you aware that he is a total Wacko Conservative Republican shill, and totally not a reliable source on anything? If I were the FBI, I would probable plant rumours that he actually plagiarized his doctorate, because, how could a Black person get a PhD without cheating? (On the racist assumptions that are rife in this thread.) Same goes for the rest of them, Clarence ("No Questions")Thomas, Ben ("Brain surgeon without a brain") Carson. Not to mention the completely insane Republican Black person, ___-_______ fill-in-the-blank. You know you can! Allen West? War criminal and crazy person. Herman Cain? Extra cheesy! Alan Keyes, totally wacko, and his daughter too! Wikipedia has a list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African-American_Republicans [wikipedia.org] of African American Republicans, but it covers from the end of the Civil war and not just after Nixon's Southern Strategy make it so lucrative to be a Black Republican, like Condaleeza Rice!

            So again, we should listen to Sowell just because of his skin color? That's racist! And a version of the Cretan Paradox: St Paul said, "All Cretans are liars, and it is true because even one of them said so!" Oh, dear, I fear that once again I need to explain this for our conservative members, so they will be able to understand. You see, if the Cretan was telling the truth, all Cretans are liars, including him. So that means that what he was saying (all Cretans being liars) is necessarily false. But that means, if it is false that all Cretans are liars, that he could be telling the truth, so that all Cretans are liars, including him, and we go round once again. Sowell is a Cretan.

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by ilPapa on Sunday May 24 2015, @08:28PM

    by ilPapa (2366) on Sunday May 24 2015, @08:28PM (#187333) Journal

    ? Just look at the ample evidence that the current culture of the American black, which glorifies violence and gangs

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/21/us/texas-biker-shooting/ [cnn.com]

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by opinionated_science on Sunday May 24 2015, @09:14PM

    by opinionated_science (4031) on Sunday May 24 2015, @09:14PM (#187345)

    There is a wide consensus that the racial categories that are common in everyday usage are socially constructed, and that racial groups cannot be biologically defined. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification) [wikipedia.org].

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @01:12AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday May 25 2015, @01:12AM (#187440)

    There is no such thing as different races of humans. What you mean is ethnicity. There is only one race: the human race.

  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by mcgrew on Monday May 25 2015, @12:56PM

    by mcgrew (701) <publish@mcgrewbooks.com> on Monday May 25 2015, @12:56PM (#187591) Homepage Journal

    For an example of why culture can be a bad thing? Just look at the ample evidence that the current culture of the American black, which glorifies violence and gangs, drugs, abusing women and abandoning children

    That isn't black culture, it's ghetto culture and perpetuated by the media; look at the music coming out these days. It looks like they've gotten to you, your brain has been hacked.

    That's a rate 6 times higher than white males of the same age bracket

    But not the same income bracket.

    the poorest place in America is white

    And rural. That makes a HUGE difference. Black poor country folk are much like white poor country folk, white ghetto dwellers are no different at all from black ghetto dwellers. I drink in a ghetto bar and know these people. Violent assholes come in all sizes, shapes, and colors.

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