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The Guardian reports that Britain's most senior Muslim policeman, Mak Chisty, has warned "Islamist propaganda is so potent it is influencing children as young as five and should be countered with intensified monitoring to detect the earliest signs of anti-western sentiment". He gives several examples of indoctrination being forced upon children as young as five (Christmas being "haram" [an act forbidden by Islam]) and teenagers being groomed to join ISIS.
Chishty said friends and family of youngsters should be intervening much earlier, watching out for subtle, unexplained changes, which could also include sudden negative attitudes towards alcohol, social occasions and western clothing. They should challenge and understand what caused such changes in behaviour, the police commander said, and seek help, if needs be from the police, if they are worried.
[...] Chishty said communities in Britain had to act much earlier. He said: "We need to now be less precious about the private space. This is not about us invading private thoughts, but acknowledging that it is in these private spaces where this [extremism] first germinates. The purpose of private-space intervention is to engage, explore, explain, educate or eradicate. Hate and extremism is not acceptable in our society, and if people cannot be educated, then hate and harmful extremism must be eradicated through all lawful means." [...] Asked to define "private space", Chishty said: "It's anything from walking down the road, looking at a mobile, to someone in a bedroom surfing the net, to someone in a shisha cafe talking about things."
[...] He said friends and family were best placed to intervene. Questions should be asked, he said, if someone stops shopping at Marks & Spencer [a shop perceived to be Jewish owned] or starts voicing criticism. He said it could be they were just fed up with the store, but alternatively they could have "hatred for that store". He said the community should "look out for each other", that ISIS was "un-Islamic", as proven by its barbarity.
turgid notes:
As an atheist who enthusiastically celebrates Christmas, eats chocolate eggs at Easter and carves turnips or pumpkins at Halloween, I find it very strange that people of many religions often artificially exclude themselves from harmless and enjoyable local traditional customs. I find it very sad that we have young people brought up in a strictly-controlled environment cut off from the ideas and views of the rest of the world. I also find it abhorrent that the Establishment now finds itself publicly calling for the complete abandonment one of the core values of individual liberty.
Maybe the rest of us shouldn't worry because we're not Muslim? Where have I heard this before?
Meanwhile, our government is attempting to tear up the Human Rights Act. It's easier to control when the proles have no rights.
[Editor's Comment: Original Submission. Significant edits to this submission have been made - acknowledgement of the submitter has been changed to reflect this. janrinok]
(Score: 5, Funny) by aristarchus on Tuesday May 26 2015, @06:48AM
Ever since reading Josef Conrad's "Under Western Eyes" and "Secret Agent", I must admit that most conspiracy theory starts in Britain. Not sure why, unless they are an especially timorous race. Or perhaps it is the constant invasions from the mainland! Celts, Romans, Anglo-Saxons, Normans, Danes, Frenchmen in the Monty Python version. Moreso, methinks, versooth, is the break with the Catholic Church. Ol' Henry the Eight and his numerous wives. There was always the idea that Catholics might try to reclaim the throne of Britain, from Mary Queen of Scots, to the Bonny Prince Charlie, to Anthony Flew. So there is constant fear of treason, by Catholics. Remember, remember, the fifth of November, the gunpowder treason and plot? Maybe with good reason! The Four Musketeers trying to head off the treason of Cardinal Richeleiu and that really hot widow, to bring England back under the control of the One True and Universal Church? Or was it the other way around? And since then it has been the conspiracy of the week. Belgians named "Goldfinger". United Europe and a single currency. MI5 completely manned by Soviet moles (OK, that one was true!). Eurovision. Need we say more? So now it is Muslim babies working as sleeper onesies agents for the international socialist Vatican House of Merovingians? More insane than Dan Brown, if that is possible. And at least Dan knows what he writes is fiction. Right now, I am looking out for Papist tendencies in my children. Or worse, Scottish independence sympathy!
(Score: 3, Interesting) by c0lo on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:40AM
Where's your control group? Britain isn't the only country that was constantly invaded through its history, most of the East and South East Europe countries were. You want something in the West? Think Spain
Yet I haven't heard about a "Greek/Macedonian conspiracy", nor about a "Spanish conspiracy".
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Vandal invasions [wikipedia.org], Goths invasions [wikipedia.org], hunnic invasions [wikipedia.org] (here's the map of Roman empire invasions [wikipedia.org]), turkish invasions [wikipedia.org], mongols invasions [wikipedia.org], moors conquest [wikipedia.org], Ottoman conquests [wikipedia.org] - only about 1500 years of continuous invasions , conquests and occupations.
I'd rather think their predilection to conspiracy is something related to their island and the weather - too small a space to get along one with the other, too miserable weather to have something better to do (as far back as 13th century [wikipedia.org])
(large grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 1, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:52AM
Where I live, we sometimes have weekends of British Invasion, which is nice, because that means the music on the radio is usually better.
Never seen any more Brits here than normal while it's going on though.
(Score: 2) by aristarchus on Tuesday May 26 2015, @08:00AM
Perfectly willing to acknowledge alternative theories, as long as the fundamental facts are respected! So, what about the Irish? (And my real point is the extent to which the conspiracy bug has been adopted by Americans, especially Texans! Jade Helms, Moron Labe!)
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Tuesday May 26 2015, @12:00PM
You may be onto something here.
Can't help you with that, but it may be that the seed was planted a while back by an Englisman [wikipedia.org] and an american-born Australian of Irish descendance [wikipedia.org].
Coincidence? I don't think so.
(grin)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @12:43PM
What's that, precious? Like Johny Walker Black Label, only for molons?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @06:53PM
Obviously you are reading "labe!" as "label": one of these contains an exclamation point.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @09:26PM
>>> Moron Labe!
>>
>> What's that, precious? Like Johny Walker Black Label, only for molons?
>
> Obviously you are reading "labe!" as "label": one of these contains an exclamation point.
Spelling nazi smackdown FTW!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 27 2015, @03:57AM
Moderator kitteh disapproves! [freewebs.com]
(Score: 5, Funny) by zocalo on Tuesday May 26 2015, @08:45AM
You haven't heard of it because NOBODY expects the Spanish Conspiracy!
UNIX? They're not even circumcised! Savages!
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @03:45PM
NEWSFLASH: Franco still dead!