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posted by CoolHand on Tuesday May 26 2015, @06:14AM   Printer-friendly
from the erosion-of-rights dept.

The Guardian reports that Britain's most senior Muslim policeman, Mak Chisty, has warned "Islamist propaganda is so potent it is influencing children as young as five and should be countered with intensified monitoring to detect the earliest signs of anti-western sentiment". He gives several examples of indoctrination being forced upon children as young as five (Christmas being "haram" [an act forbidden by Islam]) and teenagers being groomed to join ISIS.

Chishty said friends and family of youngsters should be intervening much earlier, watching out for subtle, unexplained changes, which could also include sudden negative attitudes towards alcohol, social occasions and western clothing. They should challenge and understand what caused such changes in behaviour, the police commander said, and seek help, if needs be from the police, if they are worried.

[...] Chishty said communities in Britain had to act much earlier. He said: "We need to now be less precious about the private space. This is not about us invading private thoughts, but acknowledging that it is in these private spaces where this [extremism] first germinates. The purpose of private-space intervention is to engage, explore, explain, educate or eradicate. Hate and extremism is not acceptable in our society, and if people cannot be educated, then hate and harmful extremism must be eradicated through all lawful means." [...] Asked to define "private space", Chishty said: "It's anything from walking down the road, looking at a mobile, to someone in a bedroom surfing the net, to someone in a shisha cafe talking about things."

[...] He said friends and family were best placed to intervene. Questions should be asked, he said, if someone stops shopping at Marks & Spencer [a shop perceived to be Jewish owned] or starts voicing criticism. He said it could be they were just fed up with the store, but alternatively they could have "hatred for that store". He said the community should "look out for each other", that ISIS was "un-Islamic", as proven by its barbarity.

turgid notes:

As an atheist who enthusiastically celebrates Christmas, eats chocolate eggs at Easter and carves turnips or pumpkins at Halloween, I find it very strange that people of many religions often artificially exclude themselves from harmless and enjoyable local traditional customs. I find it very sad that we have young people brought up in a strictly-controlled environment cut off from the ideas and views of the rest of the world. I also find it abhorrent that the Establishment now finds itself publicly calling for the complete abandonment one of the core values of individual liberty.

Maybe the rest of us shouldn't worry because we're not Muslim? Where have I heard this before?

Meanwhile, our government is attempting to tear up the Human Rights Act. It's easier to control when the proles have no rights.


[Editor's Comment: Original Submission. Significant edits to this submission have been made - acknowledgement of the submitter has been changed to reflect this. janrinok]

 
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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:30AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:30AM (#187896)

    Thought I was a reasonable bloke, but all this talk of Allah, Mohammed, and the 42 or so virgins is making me think that particle physics and sociology are no longer true! It is like Fundamentalist Islam is a black hole, inexorably pulling me in to a position of jihad against everything Christian, Jewish, Western, or Tory! I can't help myself! It is just so damn attractive to have something that I might be able to believe in, and could get me an actual wife if I go to Syria!

    OK, listen up, Brits! National prostitute corps! You did it before in times of war. But if you want all those youths to not be recruited, get them laid, and get them laid fast. It was called "Hooker's Girls" in the American Civil War. "Comfort Women" in the Asian theatre in WWII by the Japanese. The only thing that can defeat religious fundamentalism is sex, and lots of sex, and even same sex sex. Just ask the Duggars!

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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by VLM on Tuesday May 26 2015, @12:50PM

    by VLM (445) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 26 2015, @12:50PM (#187988)

    Aside from the funnies if you indoctrinate kids for 20 years that when they work hard they'll get the great job with the great car and a great picket fence house in the subdivision or condo in the city of london, and then after 20 years of "all of you will make it if you work hard enough" then "ha ha only got jobs for 50% of you and 50% of you fail at life and we don't get a F about you anymore" thats going to lead to lots of butthurt.

    So the dude who was told he'd get that accounting career if he worked hard, worked hard, and instead there aren't enough jobs, maybe he didn't win the genetic lottery or kiss butt to the right people or was born in the wrong place, so he works at the convenience store part time or maybe not even that, he's 1) not gonna get laid 2) going to be really pissed off. Quite possibly leading to not being the most patriotic young man on the face of the earth "they screwed me over, I'll screw them over".

  • (Score: 2) by turgid on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:33PM

    by turgid (4318) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday May 26 2015, @07:33PM (#188215) Journal

    You jest, but sexual control is an important part of religion, In this case, it's used to motivate people (males) to give their lives in some holy battle and to motivate others (females) to become obedient wives for these would-be martyrs in the name of their religion, which they accept as fact, unquestioningly.

    In many religions, it's also used to discourage birth control, to ensure an endless supply of hungry and poor (and therefore obedient and malleable) believers.

    Of course, it results in the wholesale abuse of women and children, poverty and hunger and the spread of debilitating incurable diseases (e.g. HIV/AIDS).

    But we can't say that lest we offend someone.