SoylentNews is people
SoylentNews
The Guardian reports that Britain's most senior Muslim policeman, Mak Chisty, has warned "Islamist propaganda is so potent it is influencing children as young as five and should be countered with intensified monitoring to detect the earliest signs of anti-western sentiment". He gives several examples of indoctrination being forced upon children as young as five (Christmas being "haram" [an act forbidden by Islam]) and teenagers being groomed to join ISIS.
Chishty said friends and family of youngsters should be intervening much earlier, watching out for subtle, unexplained changes, which could also include sudden negative attitudes towards alcohol, social occasions and western clothing. They should challenge and understand what caused such changes in behaviour, the police commander said, and seek help, if needs be from the police, if they are worried.
[...] Chishty said communities in Britain had to act much earlier. He said: "We need to now be less precious about the private space. This is not about us invading private thoughts, but acknowledging that it is in these private spaces where this [extremism] first germinates. The purpose of private-space intervention is to engage, explore, explain, educate or eradicate. Hate and extremism is not acceptable in our society, and if people cannot be educated, then hate and harmful extremism must be eradicated through all lawful means." [...] Asked to define "private space", Chishty said: "It's anything from walking down the road, looking at a mobile, to someone in a bedroom surfing the net, to someone in a shisha cafe talking about things."
[...] He said friends and family were best placed to intervene. Questions should be asked, he said, if someone stops shopping at Marks & Spencer [a shop perceived to be Jewish owned] or starts voicing criticism. He said it could be they were just fed up with the store, but alternatively they could have "hatred for that store". He said the community should "look out for each other", that ISIS was "un-Islamic", as proven by its barbarity.
turgid notes:
As an atheist who enthusiastically celebrates Christmas, eats chocolate eggs at Easter and carves turnips or pumpkins at Halloween, I find it very strange that people of many religions often artificially exclude themselves from harmless and enjoyable local traditional customs. I find it very sad that we have young people brought up in a strictly-controlled environment cut off from the ideas and views of the rest of the world. I also find it abhorrent that the Establishment now finds itself publicly calling for the complete abandonment one of the core values of individual liberty.
Maybe the rest of us shouldn't worry because we're not Muslim? Where have I heard this before?
Meanwhile, our government is attempting to tear up the Human Rights Act. It's easier to control when the proles have no rights.
[Editor's Comment: Original Submission. Significant edits to this submission have been made - acknowledgement of the submitter has been changed to reflect this. janrinok]
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday May 27 2015, @02:56PM
A religion is nothing more than a non rational belief system that explains the unexplained.
No, religion is the belief in a mystical world order. Believing that aliens made man is both irrational and non-religious. You are re-defining words in order to fit your narrative.
Most human minds seem to require answers to the Ultimate Question and since reason can't give one people rationalize themselves into an irrational one.
And most people follow a religion. Hmmm... coincidence?
Science, reason, logic, all that stuff eventually fails when confronted with the really big questions, at least it does at our present level of understanding, and people start filling in the gaps with all sorts of nonsense.
Science is a bottom-up approach, if we ever answer all the "big questions", then we'd be done with science because we will know everything. Of course we don't know all the answers. That doesn't mean science fails, it means it hasn't accomplished everything yet. Your definition of failure is meaningless, it means that you have "failed" any test as soon as you start it.
Filling the gaps with nonsense is called "making a hypothesis". That's part of the process. It's a valid research method. It's not irrational to consider a crazy idea, because sometimes it turns out to be true. Did you know that there are really really tiny little creatures EVERYWHERE? They are all over your skin, and your walls and even inside you!
At least most (one notable exception) of the major world religions/philosophical systems have the benefit of being evolutionary advantageous while most of the new age atheistic ones are contra survival and will get culled out just like 90+% of religious systems throughout history have.
"Evolutionary advantageous" is not a virtue.　Rape is evolutionary advantageous, because it makes your genes more likely to be passed on. Evolution sucks.
On the other hand most 'atheists' seem to be more about rebelling (i.e. daddy issues) against the established authority and tend to throw out all of the proven to be successful bits of the old moral codes along with the supernatural parts of traditional religions and thus end up more defined by what they are trying to be the opposite of.
Are you projecting your personal issues here? That sounds awfully specific description for hundreds of millions of people across a multitude of different cultures.
The end result is that they end up looking more like cheap devil cultists with the pentagrams ripped off of the robes.
Well damn, you got us. The gig is over guys, they know that we all secretly suck Satan's cock. Well, time to don the silly
dressesrobes and go burn some churches.