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posted by juggs on Friday May 29 2015, @04:18AM   Printer-friendly
from the random-thoughts dept.

This is a topic that comes up all too often in comments, lambasting editors or praising them.

As it stands, editorial is a black box, they accept submissions, fettle them, then they appear as stories. Recently, the Original Submission link appeared on stories so you can see what went in and what appeared out of that black box, yet still the complaints come.

Just how much transparency is necessary? (This is an open question not rhetorical)

I like to believe that SoylentNews is the people that form it as a community, and the editing should reflect that.

Should we adopt some version control for subs so everyone can see who edited what through the pipeline that goes from sub to front page?

Thoughts on a postcard please.

 
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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by hemocyanin on Friday May 29 2015, @02:42PM

    by hemocyanin (186) on Friday May 29 2015, @02:42PM (#189677) Journal

    It's a discussion site - we don't *need* a full audit trail and accountability like we might if it were legal or financial data being edited - in that context some of the suggestions seem like total overkill to me - we certainly don't need to run submissions through a CVS so we can review every single edit.

    Totally agree with you. An additional point I'd make, is that people are always going to bitch. The fact they are bitching doesn't necessarily mean anything is wrong because there are some people who will go to the ends of the earth to find something to complain about. Catering to such people is a losing proposition because their criticism isn't about any issue that actually needs addressing, it's about trying to get attention. I think that describes the large majority of complaints about editing here.

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  • (Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Friday May 29 2015, @05:13PM

    by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Friday May 29 2015, @05:13PM (#189739) Homepage

    True, I appreciate your sentiment, however we do try to listen to the community. It's a hard line to walk sometimes between listening to suggestions/complaints and simply getting the job done; we all work very hard (and will continue to strive) to maintain that balance.

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    • (Score: 2) by zocalo on Saturday May 30 2015, @02:10PM

      by zocalo (302) on Saturday May 30 2015, @02:10PM (#190108)
      Understood, and I'm sure that it's appreciated by many of the site readership. Having given it a little more thought, I think a good compromise would be the following:

      Automated inclusion of original submission. Not really fussed where, but it doesn't need to be in your face.
      Basic spelling/grammar errors fixed silently (it's vs its, their vs they're vs there, etc.)
      Fixed links done with acknowledgement lest anyone think it's a change to OP's intent
      Deliberately included typos, etc. indicated with "[sic]"
      Significant edits for tone/language/content etc. acknowledged in the story as a heads up for those that care
      Follow-up edits to the story after posting, especially those made by other editors, noted inline or at the end of the story

      That keeps clutter to a minimum, gives a reasonable audit trail, and should provide enough accountability over who said what to placate most people. There will always be some that want more but, as I noted earlier, we should be focussed on discussing the topic of the submissions, not the worthiness of the submissions themselves. Implement a few simple "fixes" and wait - I'm pretty sure things will settle down and be forgotten about soon enough.
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