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posted by n1 on Tuesday June 02 2015, @02:05AM   Printer-friendly
from the no-such-thing-as-bad-publicity dept.

If you read SoylentNews, Ars Technica, Reddit, or anywhere other than the other site, you've probably heard about SourceForge hijacking accounts and monetizing open source software with crapware installers. It seems the other site is intent on burying that information. Perhaps they don't consider it newsworthy?

For those still using SourceForge, there are many superior alternatives.

Update: 06/02 03:27 GMT by mrcoolbp : Slashdot ran the story this morning.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Eristone on Tuesday June 02 2015, @02:53AM

    by Eristone (4775) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @02:53AM (#190999)

    According to TFA Soulskill posted [slashdot.org], they were just (extremely) slow vs. actively suppressing the whole topic. And there is additional editorial follow-up on the SourceForge blog. (helping)

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by NoMaster on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:18AM

    by NoMaster (3543) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:18AM (#191003)

    And that didn't help matters.

    First, the story was that soulskill had just come back from a "busy weekend".

    And people asked 'what about the other editors who were vetting & passing through other stories over the weekend? And, hang on, the first submission was made on Wednesday night...'

    Then it changed to 'I was waiting for further details so I could put up a more informative post'.

    And people asked "when has that ever stopped /. editors before?"

    Then it was stated that "timeliness, factual accuracy, the degree to which it's on topic, and several other characteristics all factor in" to whether a post is vetted.

    And everybody fell over laughing, because that's never stopped /. editors before either.

    If people didn't think there was something fishy to begin with, they sure did by the end...

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    • (Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:32AM

      by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:32AM (#191008) Homepage

      No worries, it garnered us another mention over there that got modded +5 insightful, though originally with the wrong TLD = )

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    • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:53AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:53AM (#191012)

      > And people asked "when has that ever stopped /. editors before?"
      > If people didn't think there was something fishy to begin with, they sure did by the end...

      FWIW, I totally believe them. I don't think there was anything fishy going on.

      Is just that when it comes to Dice-related stories those do get all the extra vetting and quality control. That they give themselves the royal treatment is unsurprising. It just illustrates one of the problems with being owned by a conglomerate. Got to check in with the master when reporting on the master.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Non Sequor on Tuesday June 02 2015, @04:18AM

        by Non Sequor (1005) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @04:18AM (#191018) Journal

        It's not purely a corporate thing. As a matter of human relationships, you owe the people you work with the benefit of the doubt on these kinds of things even if people outside your organization don't owe you that.

        That said, if the story we're hearing does not involve any misunderstandings of what Dice has done, I'm inclined to think that this is a post-what-you-believe-to-be-true-or-resign moment for the Slashdot editors.

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      • (Score: 4, Insightful) by q.kontinuum on Tuesday June 02 2015, @07:31AM

        by q.kontinuum (532) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @07:31AM (#191061) Journal

        Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow? If I was an editor, I think I'd try to find a positive angle first, too. Maybe our editors are better than that, however, I think it's not necessarily about conglomerates, corporates etc. but just the desire not to spoil once own nest. People take pride in their work, and I could even imagine people taking more pride in editing for soylentnews. (Of course this pride could work both ways, could be the editors would rush to publish even negative stories, just because they are proud of their moral independence.)

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        • (Score: 3, Informative) by janrinok on Tuesday June 02 2015, @09:11AM

          by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Tuesday June 02 2015, @09:11AM (#191077) Journal

          Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow?

          Usually, we put our hands up and apologise - nobody likes making a mistake, even less being seen to make it in a very public way. (I'm sure you don't need links to examples). We strive to be 100% honest with our community. And I don't think that we've ever buried a story.

          • (Score: 2) by q.kontinuum on Tuesday June 02 2015, @09:27AM

            by q.kontinuum (532) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @09:27AM (#191080) Journal

            Probably that's what makes you a better suited editor than me :-)

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          • (Score: 4, Insightful) by TLA on Tuesday June 02 2015, @10:43AM

            by TLA (5128) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @10:43AM (#191093) Journal

            like you did with the Microsoft thing - kudos for that, by the way. Honesty is becoming a rare thing these days, more so in the field of journalism. Regardless of what I've seen others write over that one, the fact that you did come out and offer an apology AND explain why you felt you needed to apologise... well, frankly, that deserves respect. You have mine.

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          • (Score: 2) by cmn32480 on Wednesday June 03 2015, @01:04AM

            by cmn32480 (443) <{cmn32480} {at} {gmail.com}> on Wednesday June 03 2015, @01:04AM (#191365) Journal

            It isn't always your fault. Sometimes it is mine. :-)

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        • (Score: 5, Insightful) by NickFortune on Tuesday June 02 2015, @10:59AM

          by NickFortune (3267) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @10:59AM (#191095)

          Are you sure our editors would hurry to publish a story showing soylentnews (or the people behind) in a bad light somehow?

          Seriously? Solyent News has publicly aired so much dirty laundry, there has been times
          when to they looked positively exhibitionistic [1].

          A lack of transparency is not a problem I've noticed around here :)

          [1] Just to be clear, I'm in no way suggesting that this is a bad thing.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 03 2015, @03:25AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 03 2015, @03:25AM (#191417)

          Slashdot "editors" don't take no fucking pride in their work. Would you if you were them?

    • (Score: 5, Interesting) by frojack on Tuesday June 02 2015, @04:52AM

      by frojack (1554) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @04:52AM (#191033) Journal

      Virtually none of those excuses are believable.

      Posting it here, as well as everywhere else, probably was a ploy to force their hand.

      Yet nobody has presented any substance to the "burying" allegation other than a typically hyperventilating reddit thread (as if reddit had a sparkling reputation as a beacon of truth).

      In years past I've submitted many stories to slashdot, never to have them be seen again. I finally gave up submitting any story over there 4 years ago, and seldom even read it any more since it is now approaching 100% ACs). Therefore its not inconceivable that nobody dared to post it in their new corporate structure, so everybody walked around it like it was Ethanol Fueled's racing striped underwear.

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      • (Score: 5, Insightful) by TheRaven on Tuesday June 02 2015, @09:37AM

        by TheRaven (270) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @09:37AM (#191081) Journal

        Virtually none of those excuses are believable.

        Really? The timeline sounds like:

        1. Story was submitted.
        2. Soulskill takes it from the queue and decides that it would be better if they got a response from Dice before running it (fair and balanced and so on).
        3. Soulskill tries to contact the relevant people in Dice, thinking that it will be easy as they're within the same company.
        4. No response by Friday, Soulskill goes away.
        5. Soulskill returns, discovers that there's a lot of grumbling about the story being suppressed, runs it quickly with a very quickly written note about the delay.

        This meshes entirely with what they've said and just requires that a Slashdot editor be well meaning but not really on the ball with regards to how the community will interpret things or how their corporate overlords will react to them. Which, again, sounds completely believable.

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        • (Score: 4, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:34PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:34PM (#191165)

          I think the more likely scenario is:

          1. Soulskill sees the SourceForge stories in the queue, decides to post one.

          2. Soulskill stops himself at the last minute, decides that finding a new job would be a pain; and anyway Samzenpus is up next.

          3. Samzenpus checks in, sees the backlog of SourceForge stories, swears at Soulskill.

          4. But, Samzenpus reasons, Timothy is always game for controversy.

          5. Timothy checks in, doesn't even notice any of the SourceForge stories.

          6. Now the queue starts filling up with stories about Slashdot editors.

          7. Soulskill checks in. Procrastination didn't work this time.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:45PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:45PM (#191168)

          1. Story was submitted.
          2. Soulskill takes it from the queue

          The day after the story appeared here there were at least three submissions in the firehose that had been voted up and had at least five comments each.

      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Tuesday June 02 2015, @01:24PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @01:24PM (#191127) Journal

        I agree with you. When the Slashdot editors start using mealy-mouthed corporatespeak you know that they've launched into sock puppet mode for the scumbag Dice MBA's who have their hand up their ass. Such a thing was completely unknown on Slashdot before Dice came to town.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by penguinoid on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:58PM

      by penguinoid (5331) on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:58PM (#191172)

      Their apology was so lame, I finally got around to making an account here at Soylent News. Seriously, did they think it would make anything better if they had a PR manager write the story and then made up (and changed) some excuses for why they buried the story? Could have just said, "Sorry our evil overlords are evil, nothing we can do about that" and it would have been more acceptable.

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  • (Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:31AM

    by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Tuesday June 02 2015, @03:31AM (#191007) Homepage

    Thanks, I updated TFA.

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