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[Update] NCommander reports that: "New SSL certificate has been installed and the site no longer generates certificate errors. I'm continuing to do work to get performance for Firefox to be decent."
[Update 2]: A revised frontend proxy is nearly operational and ready to go into service which will resolve performance issues for firefox
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @08:51PM
Why not just bite the bullet and go full nodejs?
Thank you for your generous offer to volunteer your time & effort converting SoylentNews to run on nodejs. Please be sure to provide the appropriate login credentials for the Linode VPS as well as the Github repository information.
It's people like you who make SN what it is (and now, what it will be).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @09:38PM
I wasn't volunteering, I was talking to a fellow dev. I'm guessing you don't have our skill so you think I meant to do it myself? I could, but I'd want money. A full rebuild like this would take about 2 months to get up and going in nodejs. The benefits would be incredible though.
Imagine that as poeple post, it would just appear on the screen. Imagine stories would do the same, just pop on the screen. Imagine having live video/voice chat as an option. Imagine being able to setup maker spaces for us to group collaborate.
Imagine that anywhere you clicked on the screen, just a little spot reloaded, not THE ENTIRE GODDAMN PAGE.
There are a plethora of reasons to switch to modern technology.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by boristhespider on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:13PM
I think you entirely missed his point.
On this site, given it's run entirely and completely by volunteers, if you want it, feel free to do it. Demand money for doing it yourself? Don't fucking request it for free from volunteers, then.
Prick.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:15PM
It's volunteer?
How does it stay operational? People need to eat.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:23PM
Let's see ... the folks who run the site have regular jobs. While they aren't at work they volunteer some of their time to running the site. Some code, some test, some this, some that. But they all donate their time in order to keep the site running, as well as donating their time to upgrade the open source code for site.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:28PM
Ah, I think I just pinpointed why nothing gets really done here then in terms of changes.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:40PM
Your first visit and you think you know anything about this site? I will admit this: I've made multiple requests for a "Douche Nozzle" moderation tag and they've never implemented it. I guess that's proof you're right? Or perhaps it's why you're not modded as 'Douche Nozzle'.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:14PM
I'm guessing you don't have our skill so you think I meant to do it myself?
I've been paid to code for more than 35 years, so yeah, I've got your "skill". I didn't think you were offering anything except your opinion that you know better than the site admins.
Sure, node has some benefits, though none to offer those of us who browse the web with js turned off. Is the traffic on SN so dynamic that posts/updates/stories/moderation need to appear as if by magic? I'm thinking "no".
Obviously you fancy yourself as a nodejs programmer so every site is a candidate for one of your nodejs rewrites. Like the old adage says, "when all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail".
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:19PM
I am a developer.
It's not nodejs though that I'm actually looking at. It's that functionality I was talking about, of stuff 'magic' popping on the screen. It's actually a real technology and yes I absolutely expect that to be the norm for how a website operates.
I understand you said you disabled javascript? Awesome, welcome to 1990, enjoy your internet.
(Score: 4, Insightful) by Marand on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:33PM
I understand you said you disabled javascript? Awesome, welcome to 1990, enjoy your internet.
I do, actually. Sites are much leaner and load faster when you disable js and they can't pull in multiple megabytes of crap from a dozen sources. Most of the time what they add is of dubious value to the end user anyway, and you can always whitelist the occasional site that legitimately needs it for something useful.
Just because you can do everything in js doesn't mean you should.
(Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 07 2015, @10:35PM
Not talking about nodejs, the specific platform you mentioned? Ahh, I see. You mean ajax, web 2.0, etc. Well, if you knew anything about this site's community you'd know that a js dependent site is not something that we want. In fact, any js dependent features are supposed to gracefully fall back to non-js functionality.
BTW, what I - and many others in this community - want from the internet does not require everything and anything to be written in js. It has its place, and I've written countless lines of js (with or without one of the libraries & frameworks that make it even easier to spread the web 2.0 gospel).
I'm so glad you've been generous enough to tell us how we're doing it wrong and how we should share your expectations for the internet. Who knows, without your insights we might be stuck in the 90's internet for the rest of our browsing lives. Now, what did I do with my GeoCities compatible color palette?
(Score: 2, Touché) by KGIII on Monday June 08 2015, @12:12AM
You should generate an account and post under your moniker. You are just as anonymous that way and you are accountable, to a limited extent, for what you say. Also it is easier to make sure that what you say is from you and not from some other anonymous coward. Like you said, welcome to 1990. You can actually post with your own unique nom de plume now.
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Non Sequor on Monday June 08 2015, @07:06AM
I wasn't volunteering, I was talking to a fellow dev. I'm guessing you don't have our skill so you think I meant to do it myself? I could, but I'd want money. A full rebuild like this would take about 2 months to get up and going in nodejs. The benefits would be incredible though.
Imagine that as poeple post, it would just appear on the screen. Imagine stories would do the same, just pop on the screen. Imagine having live video/voice chat as an option. Imagine being able to setup maker spaces for us to group collaborate.
Imagine that anywhere you clicked on the screen, just a little spot reloaded, not THE ENTIRE GODDAMN PAGE.
There are a plethora of reasons to switch to modern technology.
You are the enemy of all mankind. The web is going backwards in terms of sane usability practices and that's mostly because of feature diarrhea and ill-conceived design decisions driven by this crap.
I don't want chat, I want to take my time composing messages in peace. The pace of communications is part of the medium. You change the pace, it's a different medium with different strengths and weaknesses and with users conditioned to have different expectations. I also certainly don't want any voice or video. I process text information at a much higher words per minute than voice communications.
Write your congressman. Tell him he sucks.