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posted by cmn32480 on Monday June 08 2015, @10:57AM   Printer-friendly
from the how-many-robots-does-it-take-to-screw-in-a-lightbulb dept.

Digital technology has been a fantastic creator of economic wealth, particularly in the twenty years since the Internet and World Wide Web were unveiled to the masses. And with non-trivial applications of artificial intelligence (such as Apple's Siri) finally reaching the mainstream consumer market, one is tempted to agree with pundits asserting that the Second Machine Age is just getting underway.

But Yale ethicist Wendell Wallach argues that growth in wealth has been accompanied by an equally dramatic rise in income inequality; for example, stock ownership is now concentrated in the hands of a relative few (though greater than 1 percent). The increase in GDP has not led to an increase in wages, nor in median inflation-adjusted income. Furthermore, Wallach says technology is a leading cause of this shift, as it displaces workers in occupation after occupation more quickly than new career opportunities arise.

This piece led to the latest iteration of the 'will robots take all of our jobs' debate, this time on Business Insider, with Jim Edwards arguing that the jobs lost tended to be of the mindless and repetitive variety, while the increase in productive capacity has led to the creation of many new positions. This repeated earlier cycles of the industrial revolution and will be accelerated in the decades ahead. Edwards illustrated his point with a chart of UK unemployment with a trend line (note: drawn by Edwards) in a pronounced downward direction over the past 30 years. John Tamny made a similar point in Forbes last month.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by ikanreed on Monday June 08 2015, @02:14PM

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 08 2015, @02:14PM (#193648) Journal

    And here you go just plain being wrong.

    For example, you just dismiss a couple things as "human concepts". Hey doofus. We're humans. You and me. This economy we interact with, it's a human concept too. Land isn't as widely available as you think it is, and variations in details of land affect its utility. None of what you said here dismisses the criticality of any of those things.

    You're. Just. Wrong.

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  • (Score: 2) by kaszz on Monday June 08 2015, @02:29PM

    by kaszz (4211) on Monday June 08 2015, @02:29PM (#193660) Journal

    Human concepts depend on natural resources to make them happen. It's a dependency graph in essence.

    If you got energy you may mine or extract phosphorus to make food using land and sunlight (energy) to make something to eat and trade with and so on.

    • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Monday June 08 2015, @02:34PM

      by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Monday June 08 2015, @02:34PM (#193663) Journal

      Oh, so you're really just going to push this because, hell, "matter's just a form of energy" or some level of physical abstraction that completely obviates the idea of an "economy" in the first place.

      Well, enjoy. I'm not going to pursue this conversation for the next 10 replies it takes to get to that point.