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posted by n1 on Thursday June 11 2015, @02:55PM   Printer-friendly
from the taking-advantage-of-the-best-minds dept.

Sen. John McCain pens an opinion piece on Wired:

America's military technological advantage is eroding—and fast.

For the past decade, our adversaries have invested heavily in rapidly improving their militaries to counter our unique advantages. At the same time, the speed of globalization and commercialization means that advanced disruptive technologies are now—and increasingly will be—available to less sophisticated militaries, terrorist groups, and other non-state actors.

Maintaining our military technological advantage is about much more than a larger defense budget or a better fighter or submarine. These things are important, but to give our military the capabilities it needs to defend the nation, the Department of Defense must be able to access innovation in areas such as cyber, robotics, data analytics, miniaturization, and autonomy, innovation that is much more likely to come from Silicon Valley, Austin, or Mesa than Washington.

[...] There are those who say that even with changes like these, our nation's innovators simply aren't interested in doing business with the Pentagon. And after spending much of my career in Washington scrutinizing Pentagon business practices, I am not exactly surprised to hear such sentiments. But in the final analysis, I believe the brightest minds will always be driven to solve the world's toughest problems. These are the problems our military confronts every day. And these are the problems we can solve if we create an acquisition system that enables the Department of Defense to take advantage of the best minds, firms, and technologies that America and the world have to offer.


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:12PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:12PM (#194985) Journal

    What makes you think that lasers won't work and that they are a waste of money?

    Some part of the military-industrial complex gets enriched by the spending, so it's not a waste for them.

    The lasers do work and will be mounted on U.S. warships [wired.com]:

    But the biggest advantage that Eccles and Klunder advertise for the age of the laser weapon is financial. “We’re not talking about something that costs millions of dollars or multi-thousands of dollars,” said Klunder. “We’re talking something — and this is true data; remember, I’m a test pilot, so I deal in data, I don’t deal in PowerPoints, I deal in real performance data — we’re talking about a pulse of directed energy that costs under a U.S. dollar.” Greenert beamed as he noted that the Navy’s shipboard gun and missile arsenal, at its cheapest, costs $5,000 per shot.

    A lot about that cost figure depends on successful integration aboard a ship’s deck; successfully drawing from a ship’s power without compromising the propulsion systems; and the cost of fuel per shot. And it also factors out the cost of the weapon itself. But if it turns out to be genuine, the Navy will have developed the rare high-end weapons system that undercuts the cost of adversary weapons.

    The big concern in surface warfare is that anti-ship missiles are way cheaper than ships. The Navy can’t make ships cheaper. (Let’s be real.) But it might be able to develop a countermeasure to those anti-ship weapons cheaper than those weapons themselves. “I have the ability now, with a directed energy pulse weapon, to take out something that may cost millions of dollars, or multi-thousands of dollars, with a weapon round that costs about one dollar to shoot,” Klunder said.

    As the Navy sees it, that’s the ultimate promise of laser guns: a weapon that undercuts the increasing cheapness and availability of powerful missiles and robots. It’s by no means certain that the Navy can realize the promise. But it’s now fully committed to trying.

    “Could, someday, [the LaWS] be missile defense? Perhaps,” Greenert said. “I want to get it out to the environment so it can one day deploy.”

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:32PM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:32PM (#194998) Journal

    Do lasers work as well against kinetic weapons? Railguns have an advantage in that they can be fired over the horizon. Those seem cheap per shot, too.

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    • (Score: 4, Insightful) by takyon on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:37PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:37PM (#195004) Journal

      The real question is who is the Navy preparing to fight? China? Pirates? Both?

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      • (Score: 2) by PartTimeZombie on Friday June 12 2015, @02:10AM

        by PartTimeZombie (4827) on Friday June 12 2015, @02:10AM (#195236)

        That's the real question. Wankers like McCain spout off about "America losing it's advantage" without ever specifying who they're supposed to be losing this advantage to.
        Russia? They used to be the bogey man, but are no credible threat to America any more.
        China? They're only a threat to the US if the US expand their presence in China's sphere of influence.
        Pirates? If it is pirates the Strait of Malacca and the East Coast of Africa would be the focus.

    • (Score: 1) by penguinoid on Thursday June 11 2015, @05:05PM

      by penguinoid (5331) on Thursday June 11 2015, @05:05PM (#195038)

      Lasers are much faster and quicker to aim as well. With a powerful enough laser you could destroy or deflect a solid kinetic round, though not as easily as if it were hollow. Railguns seem to suffer from much wear and tear, and I don't think that can be avoided too easily. Odds are, you want a railgun for power and a laser for accuracy.

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  • (Score: 2) by Whoever on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:34PM

    by Whoever (4524) on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:34PM (#195001) Journal

    What makes you think that lasers won't work and that they are a waste of money?

    Atmospheric dispersal? Yes, they might work, in perfectly clear conditions.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by takyon on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:51PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Thursday June 11 2015, @03:51PM (#195011) Journal

      What makes you think that lasers won't work and that they are a waste of money?

      Atmospheric dispersal? Yes, they might work, in perfectly clear conditions.

      http://aviationweek.com/technology/general-atomics-third-gen-electric-laser-weapon-now-ready [aviationweek.com]

      But the Gen 3’s efficiency is at the level of fiber lasers, Davis says, adding that the company has worked for several years to improve beam quality and achieved “excellent quality” in the latest tests. Adaptive optics adjust the beam to compensate for atmospheric distortion.

      http://optics.org/news/5/3/13 [optics.org]

      Joe Mangano, the program manager within DARPA’s “Excalibur” project, says that the recent demo shows that the OPA-corrected laser can outperform conventional systems that suffer from reduced beam quality. Maintaining a good beam shape is critical to ensure that sufficiently concentrated power is delivered to a target to destroy it.

      The 21-element OPA used by DARPA, which was made by Ohio-based Optonicus, comprised three identical clusters of seven fiber lasers. Each cluster measures 10 cm across.

      Combined with an “ultra-fast” algorithm, the OPA is said to be able to correct for atmospheric turbulence within a millisecond.

      Also, these lasers will be scaled up in power in order to do more:

      http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-4MJFb8l7xKk/VGjqXfQZbHI/AAAAAAAA4So/uk01ssa9Wuk/s1600/screenshot-fas.org%2B2014-11-16%2B10-17-16.png [blogspot.com]
      http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-adFrG4eZwMY/VGjp1HclnII/AAAAAAAA4Sg/qa0GK6oK_xA/s1600/screenshot-fas.org%2B2014-11-16%2B10-15-16.png [blogspot.com]

      30-150 kW lasers have already been built. 300 kW should be available (as a prototype) by 2018. Eventually ships will have megawatt lasers.

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      • (Score: 2) by deimtee on Thursday June 11 2015, @11:51PM

        by deimtee (3272) on Thursday June 11 2015, @11:51PM (#195188) Journal

        An interesting question is how well do the lasers work in rain or fog?
        Correcting for atmospheric distortions - adaptive optics - is fine for telescopes, but how do you compensate for thousands to millions of random lenses in your target path dispersing the beam energy?
        If all the "bad guys" need to do is wait for the right weather, then the ship is going to need a pretty good backup defence.

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        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2015, @05:39AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2015, @05:39AM (#195278)

          > An interesting question is how well do the lasers work in rain or fog?

          They burn it out nearly instantly, creating an effective vacuum. The amount of energy that fog and rain-droplets can absorb is practically nil. It is the same reason a mirror is no defense against these lasers either, the amount of energy just overwhelms any distorting/reflecting ability and vaporizes it instead.

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2015, @02:13AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 13 2015, @02:13AM (#195605)

            What if you build a shield for your missile out of the same material as the adaptive optics?

        • (Score: 2) by AnonTechie on Friday June 12 2015, @10:07AM

          by AnonTechie (2275) on Friday June 12 2015, @10:07AM (#195337) Journal

          In the future, USA shall ordain that wars shall only be fought under clear skies only !!

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