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posted by janrinok on Friday June 12 2015, @02:48AM   Printer-friendly
from the we-might-have-or-we-might-not dept.

StingRay in the UK: British Invasion of Privacy

Stingray cell site simulators (IMSI catchers) have been discovered in London according to an investigation by Sky News:

Sky News used software made by GMSK Cryptophone, a German security company, to look for the tell-tale signs of Stingray activity. Over three weeks, Sky News discovered more than 20 instances in London. The CEO of Cryptophone, Bjoern Rupp, said: "The abnormal events that Sky News had encountered can clearly be categorised as strong indicators for the presence of IMSI catchers in multiple locations."

Sky News has published its complete data logs here [50MB+]. This is believed to be the first direct evidence of Stingray use in the UK.

In November, The Times reported that the Metropolitan Police Service, the UK's largest police force, was using Stingray technology, citing anonymous sources. And according to The Guardian, the Metropolitan Police paid £143,455 for the surveillance equipment in 2009.

Despite repeated Freedom of Information requests, including by Sky News, the Met neither confirms nor denies that the force uses IMSI catchers. Asked directly about the force's use of stingrays by Sky News, Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Met commissioner and the UK's most senior police officer, said: "We're not going to talk about it, because the only people who benefit are the other side, and I see no reason in giving away that sort of thing. If people imagine that we've got the resources to do as much intrusion as they worry about, I would reassure them that it's impossible."

Keith Bristow, the director-general of the National Crime Agency, also told Sky News: "Some of what we would like to talk about to get the debate informed and logical, we can't, because it would defeat the purpose of having the tactics in the first place. Frankly, some of what we need to do is intrusive, it is uncomfortable, and the important thing is we set that out openly and recognise there are difficult choices to be made."

Bruce Schneier on Increasing Use of Stingray

Bruce Schneier has an article on increasing use of Stingray:

[Stingray] is the code name for an IMSI-catcher (IMSI = International Mobile Subscriber Identity), which is basically a fake cell phone tower sold by Harris Corporation to various law enforcement agencies. (It's actually just one of a series of devices with fish names -- Amberjack is another -- but it's the name used in the media.) What is basically does is trick nearby cell phones into connecting to it. Once that happens, the IMSI-catcher can collect identification and location information of the phones and, in some cases, eavesdrop on phone conversations, text messages, and web browsing.

There are dozens of these devices scattered around Washington, DC, and the rest of the country run by who-knows-what government or organization. Criminal uses are next.

He has been remarkably consistent about his main point:

We have one infrastructure. We can't choose a world where the US gets to spy and the Chinese don't. We get to choose a world where everyone can spy, or a world where no one can spy. We can be secure from everyone, or vulnerable to anyone.


Original Submissions: Stingray in the UK   Schneier's View

 
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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2015, @03:55AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 12 2015, @03:55AM (#195265)

    We have one infrastructure. We can't choose a world where the US gets to spy and the Chinese don't.

    Sure but I don't think the Chinese got those 24 bits in Lotus Notes or similar stuff.

    So I suspect the US spooks will accept a world where they have backdoors to US stuff.

  • (Score: 2) by stormwyrm on Friday June 12 2015, @05:02AM

    by stormwyrm (717) on Friday June 12 2015, @05:02AM (#195273) Journal

    Sure but I don't think the Chinese got those 24 bits in Lotus Notes or similar stuff.

    Yeah, right. Remember that the Soviet Union managed to steal the key nuclear secrets of the United States back in the day. I don't expect that the keys that open the backdoors that can be used to exploit American software are more heavily guarded than those had to be. The Chinese can get those "24 bits in Lotus Notes" if they really wanted them. The NSA after all, despite their reputation as an all-powerful spook agency, was reassuringly just about as incompetent as every other government agency and had Edward Snowden leak many of their secrets. Where there is one informant, there are bound to be many more, and not all of those informants will be motivated by the same noble principles that Mr. Snowden evidently had. Some of them could well be selling information like the keys that open the back door in Dual_EC_DRBG, the secret key corresponding to the fabled Microsoft _NSAKEY and information on its true purpose or the "24 bits in Lotus Notes" to the Russians or the Chinese. If US spooks really believe that they and only they will ever have access to these backdoors then they are both supremely arrogant and supremely stupid, or believe that weakening the security of the global network infrastructure in that way is an acceptable consequence for building the surveillance state.

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    • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Friday June 12 2015, @11:24AM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Friday June 12 2015, @11:24AM (#195357) Journal

      That's OK, because the enemy the NSA targets is not Russia or China--they're not worried about them. The enemy the NSA targets is Americans.

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