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posted by n1 on Monday June 15 2015, @08:46AM   Printer-friendly
from the marketing-1-customer-0 dept.

Just bought a FirefoxOS Revolution Geeksphone in mid-May. I mean, sure, it's buggy and needs improvement, but it's an open source, community-driven project. That is how it was presented to consumers.

It has nowhere to go but up, right? Wrong. Without any kind of transparency or openness or communication, the Geeksphone crew let us know in a one-line comment that they were orphaning all of us.

Re: Firefox OS 2.2
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2015, 05:34:08 PM »
No sorry, all FxOs development are finished by Geeksphone.

Thanks..... ;)

And that's all, folks. Apparently. To add injury to injury, they used a locked bootloader, according to another commenter. I didn't even check on that. It's an open source project, I thought.

I'm also mad as hell. Any other Soylentils in this mess? Anybody have any ideas on a useful way forward?


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  • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:14AM

    by Grishnakh (2831) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @02:14AM (#196703)

    They didn't throw Eich under the bus, he stepped down voluntarily because the whole issue was causing such a shit-storm that the company couldn't function properly. No other company would keep a CEO around if he was generating that much controversy.

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  • (Score: 2) by jmorris on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:30PM

    by jmorris (4844) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @06:30PM (#196978)

    Shitstorm? If people are going to get fired for every two minutes hate on twitter and tumblr, nobody is going to survive. And lest you rest easy in the false belief that you are safe because you are a double plus goodthinker, think again. Go watch the fun and games of Vox Day vs Tor books where he fully intends to make the SJWs start living by the same rulebook they wrote for everyone else. Everybody loses. Which is of course the only way to win because they won't even consider rewriting the rulebook until you also live in fear. And if that isn't enough to seize up your sphincter, consider that Eich was sacked for supporting a political position that WON in the Bluest state and was the stated position of both President Obama and Hillary Clinton at the time he made the donation. So there truly is no safety, when the tumblerinas shift the goalposts again you too could find yourself in their cross-hairs for a decade old position OR the growing counter strikes by people like Day.

    Also worth pointing out that out of a post only mentioning this issue as a first step in building a chain of events mostly devoted to criticizing Moz Corp for selling out all principles, emulating Google and the Play Store, side hits on RedHat/Fedora, etc. that only this one side issue was replied to. You precious snowflakes really like creating the impression of all seeing, all destroying monitors of all speech don't ya.

    • (Score: 2) by Grishnakh on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:26AM

      by Grishnakh (2831) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @01:26AM (#197093)

      If people are going to get fired for every two minutes hate on twitter and tumblr, nobody is going to survive

      The shitstorm over Eich was very different for two reasons:

      1) it wasn't just on Twitter or wherever, it was all over the mainstream news. When a Free software company (or any software company really, but especially one like Mozilla) makes it to the mainstream news, it's a big deal, and it's really bad if it's negative publicity like this.

      2) Eich wasn't some random person or low-level employee, he was a CEO. CEOs are extremely public figures. The rules for them are different. This is the big thing all the conservatives just don't seem to understand, no matter what. What some janitor or burger-flipper can get away with is very different from what a CEO can get away with. When you're the public face of a company, they can be destroyed by any negative publicity you bring them, so it makes perfect sense to get rid of a CEO who's making the company look bad. Does "stock value" not compute to you? Gee, I'd think that talking in purely monetary and capitalist terms would make perfect sense to conservatives, but apparently not because they never, ever, understand this. Anyway, this is why very few CEOs take any kind of political stances or say anything publicly that would polarize people against their company. The only ones who do are ones who feel really secure in their positions for whatever reason (e.g., Apple customers aren't likely to get pissed by having a publicly-gay CEO the way Hobby Lobby customers might; also, a CEO who basically owns the company can probably do whatever the heck he wants; the Kochs are a good example here, as their company is privately-owned).

      You precious snowflakes really like creating the impression of all seeing, all destroying monitors of all speech don't ya.

      It's amazing how blind you conservatives are. Do you think a privately-owned company should have the freedom to fire an employee who drives to work with an Obama (or whatever) bumper sticker on their car? I'm sure you do. Conservatives were talking about that a lot before Obama got elected. But if someone gets in trouble for saying something conservative, suddenly you're screaming "freedom of speech!" Here's a clue: companies are not governments. The First Amendment doesn't apply in the workplace: if your employer doesn't like your speech, in most states they can fire you, thanks to Right-to-Work laws. You conservatives are all perfectly OK with right-to-work laws, and bash states (I think there's only one left) which aren't, and complain about it being too hard for employers to get rid of people. But if it's a conservative issues, suddenly you're screaming "freedom of speech!" Why weren't you screaming that about Muslim employees who wanted to wear veils at trendy clothing stores? (For the record, I think that was bogus too; the store had every right to fire her for not following the dress code and bringing religion into the workplace.) Face it: you're all a bunch of hypocrites.