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posted by n1 on Tuesday June 16 2015, @08:21AM   Printer-friendly
from the following-orders dept.

Techdirt has already written about the massive problems with the Sunday Times' big report claiming that the Russians and Chinese had "cracked" the encryption on the Snowden files (or possibly just been handed those files by Snowden) and that he had "blood on his hands" even though no one has come to any harm. It also argued that David Miranda was detained after he got documents from Snowden in Moscow, despite the fact that he was neither in Moscow, nor had met Snowden (a claim the article quietly deleted). That same report also claimed that UK intelligence agency MI6 had to remove "agents" from Moscow because of this leak, despite the fact that they're not called "agents" and there's no evidence of any actual risk. So far, the only official response from News Corp. the publisher of The Sunday Times (through a variety of subsidiaries) was to try to censor the criticism of the story with a DMCA takedown request.

Either way, one of the journalists who wrote the story, Tom Harper, gave an interview to CNN which is quite incredible to watch. Harper just keeps repeating that he doesn't know what's actually true, and that he was just saying what the government told him -- more or less admitting that his role here was not as a reporter, but as a propagandist or a stenographer.

[Video]: http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/06/14/tom-harper-nsa-files-snowden-howell-intv-nr.cnn/video/playlists/intl-latest-world-videos/

[Also Covered By]: The Intercept


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  • (Score: 4, Insightful) by DeathMonkey on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:29PM

    by DeathMonkey (1380) on Tuesday June 16 2015, @05:29PM (#196949) Journal

    No one knows what they have wrong.
     
    The articles point out a few specifics that are wrong. It's just a coincidence that every independently verifiable fact included in the story is false, I'm sure.

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  • (Score: 2) by Non Sequor on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:39AM

    by Non Sequor (1005) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:39AM (#197128) Journal

    What makes disassembling a narrative a more reliable procedure than assembling a narrative? You have a mass of assertions from different parties. One group of journalists sorts through the pile and puts the ones that sort of fit together in a row and says "there, this shows what happened" while other journalists line up the ones that don't fit together and says "that can't be right".

    You can't uncover the truth or reveal lies through these kinds of processes. Consistency isn't a proof of truth and inconsistency isn't a proof of lying. Witnesses are unreliable. Experts have personal allegiances. Stories shift over time organically or are deliberately massaged to be more consistent with an emerging narrative. The news isn't a logic puzzle where you win if you use deductive reasoning to construct a consistent set of axioms. Contradictions can coexist due to incomplete explanations and consistency may be an illusory byproduct of artificially filling in incomplete explanations.

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