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posted by cmn32480 on Thursday June 18 2015, @11:15PM   Printer-friendly
from the from-his-lips-to-gods-ears dept.

Despite the santorum splattered about, the Pontiff of the Church Universal and Triumphant [EDIT: This is actually referring to the Roman Catholic Church, not the Church Universal and Triumphant] is going to agree with the climate change consensus in an encyclical to be released on Thursday. Early leaks give some idea of the content.

Pope Francis is preparing to declare humans as primarily responsible for climate change, call for fossil fuels to be replaced by renewable energy and decry the culture of consumerism, a leaked draft of his much anticipated statement on the environment suggests.

The source for this somehow concerns Australians, but we will take any indication of infallibility where we can get it.

So the humble submitter has to wonder, does this mean that climate-change deniers are now to be considered heretics, rather than just Petro shills or anti-environmental conservative conspiracy theorists? It does add a entirely new dimension to the debate, and I hope that God will forgive your Conservative asses for screwing up Her creation in the quest for profit.

UPDATE - janrinok 18 Jun 12:36UTC

is it possible to update/append aristarchus' post "Pope Affirms Anthropogenic Global Warming" (https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=15/06/17/0317256), as follows:

Update: The encyclical can be read and downloaded here.

I am not affiliated with the submitter, aristarchus, or the pope. I have a slightly paranoid reason for asking for this update; it is my experience that, whenever politically important documents are published, the actual document often gets overshadowed by an enormous load of blog commentary, providing a bit of "damage control" and "spin". It is my fervent opinion that the readership of Soylentnews deserves to read the actual source documents. (It's only 82 pages long, in this case, anyway).


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  • (Score: 1) by nitehawk214 on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:18PM

    by nitehawk214 (1304) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:18PM (#197305)

    I thought that technically all protestants are heretics? But in recent centuries the different sects have decided they can at least live with one another existing.

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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by ikanreed on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:24PM

    by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 17 2015, @03:24PM (#197313) Journal

    Heresy is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;

    Emphasis mine. You have to be a Baptized Catholic, and affirmatively deny the more "fundamental" truths to Catholic faith. So being a protestant is just not being Catholic. Refusal of submission to the Pontiff is a separate crime against the faith called "Schism".

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by VLM on Wednesday June 17 2015, @08:52PM

      by VLM (445) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @08:52PM (#197527)

      Note that I'm not a Catholic but Santorum is.

      I found the definition on EWTN to be helpful (this is just the relevant part, it continues on for some time)

      http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/heresy_schism_apostasy.htm [ewtn.com]

      Thus, prior to the Second Vatican Council it was quite common to speak of non-Catholic Christians as heretics, since many of their doctrines are objectively contrary to Catholic teaching. This theological distinction remains true, though in keeping with the pastoral charity of the Council today we use the term heretic only to describe those who willingly embrace what they know to be contrary to revealed truth. Such persons are formally (in their conscience before God) guilty of heresy. Thus, the person who is objectively in heresy is not formally guilty of heresy if 1) their ignorance of the truth is due to their upbringing in a particular religious tradition (to which they may even be scrupulously faithful)

      I don't read much modern Catholic stuff, compared to how much old/ancient stuff I read, so thats where I got my peculiar pre-vatican2 attitude, where I'd be wrong by the modern post vatican 2 interpretation.