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posted by cmn32480 on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:39PM   Printer-friendly
from the here-comes-the-sun dept.

In February, the Obama administration announced its so-called Clean Energy Investment Initiative, a program that was seeking to generate $2 billion in commitments from the private sector to help spur clean energy innovation.

Just four months later, it seems, investors have willingly answered the call twice over amid rebounding interest in renewable energy.

The Obama administration said today that a collection of philanthropic groups, universities, and for-profit institutions have committed $4 billion to invest in clean energy. These are investments that might not fit in the average investor's portfolio. Instead, the money will fund things like solar, wind, and fuel cell technology, the type of potentially transformative innovation that all too often never sees the light of day because funding dries up.


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  • (Score: 5, Insightful) by SubiculumHammer on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:44PM

    by SubiculumHammer (5191) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:44PM (#197428)

    Wait all you that complain of picking winners and losers. We've supported gas coal and oil for a long time, and look what that got us: dirty air and a middle east terror threat. We need to maintain our own independent energy base and in big part this will be from renewables. It about national security.

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  • (Score: 3, Funny) by Ethanol-fueled on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:49PM

    by Ethanol-fueled (2792) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:49PM (#197433) Homepage

    This green push will include all kinds of monitoring devices which will Hoover up everything you do to the national security regime of the CIA manchurian candidate Baraq Hussein Sotero.

    You've been warned.

    • (Score: 5, Insightful) by SubiculumHammer on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:51PM

      by SubiculumHammer (5191) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @06:51PM (#197440)

      That is happening with or without clean energy. You've been warned.

      • (Score: 2) by ikanreed on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:31PM

        by ikanreed (3164) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:31PM (#197469) Journal

        Ah, but you missed their escape hatch.

        When the last gramounce of coal is extracted from the West Virginia mountains, then suddenly all the spying devices will no longer have power, and we'll all be free!

  • (Score: 2) by Freeman on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:02PM

    by Freeman (732) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:02PM (#197452) Journal

    I wonder what would happen in the middle east, if we suddenly stopped buying oil. Say we found a great, cost-effective, and easy way to obtain clean energy that could be fully implemented in 5 years. I'm assuming that the President and Congress are on our side and mandate a switch over. Yeah, I know..., the guy that invited the technology has probably already had an "accident".

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:04PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:04PM (#197453)

      Well, one plastics are a problem ( i think) if we don't have oil...maybe I'm wrong. Also a power vacuum might be bad for America even if America didn't need the oil...Imagine Russia controlling the middle-east....wait. never mind let them have it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:22PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:22PM (#197463)

      During the 1970s, oil was used for power generation, house heating, and cars. After that, coal and natural gas are used for power generation. Natural gas was used for house heating. That leaves just cars. Cars have become somewhat more efficient. However, world wide, car driving has increased, to offset those losses. Until recently, the price of oil was as expensive as it was during the 1970s. This time, the economic troubles from high oil prices were milder (there are other problems now.)

      Internal combustion engines are cheap. For the infrequent driver, they are good enough. Even if gasoline costs $7/gallon.

    • (Score: 2) by takyon on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:23PM

      by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Wednesday June 17 2015, @07:23PM (#197464) Journal

      American oil production is climbing and imports are falling

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Crude_Oil_Production_and_Imports.svg [wikipedia.org]
      http://marketrealist.com/2015/01/us-top-oil-producer-crude-imports-decline/ [marketrealist.com]

      For the week ending January 2, 2015, the US recorded an average 9.13 million bpd, as compared to 9.12 million bpd recorded on December 26, 2014, and 8.15 million bpd for the same week in 2013. Domestic production levels are at historically high levels, while imports are at their lowest levels for more than a decade. The surge in production has contributed significantly to the steep fall in crude prices.

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    • (Score: 4, Interesting) by Phoenix666 on Wednesday June 17 2015, @08:38PM

      by Phoenix666 (552) on Wednesday June 17 2015, @08:38PM (#197511) Journal

      According to the US Energy Information Administration [eia.gov]:

      Only a small amount of crude oil is directly consumed in the United States. Nearly all of the crude oil that is produced in or imported into the United States is refined into petroleum products such as gasoline, diesel fuel, heating oil, and jet fuel, which are then consumed.

      So basically we use oil to drive around in cars and trucks. If we stop doing that and use EVs instead that get electricity from all kinds of places, American demand for oil will collapse. There are pretty decent EVs on the market now, so the technology you were speculating about exists, except that it's in the cars more than in the form of generating electricity (yet).

      Having been driving around the BMW i3 EV that my brother-in-law leased 3 weeks ago, I'd say that mass adoption of EVs can't be far off. They're really fun to drive. I get an endless kick out of leaving big, powerful 500 series Mercedes and other luxury gas-powered vehicles standing at the line when the light changes, and all without the obnoxious roar of an ICE. Just...insta-fast. Once you drive one and experience the crazy performance and handling, all the eco-friendly stuff fades into an afterthought. I read Tesla and Leaf owners really like the no-maintenance of EVs, too, so that would be a longer term bonus for owners as well.

      Right now it feels like that moment we had a decade ago on the eve of the mass adoption of the digital camera, when Kodak and FujiFilm both got hit by a bus and disappeared. Big Oil is in real trouble. If you have an ICE I'd really start looking to trade it in for an EV at the earliest opportunity while it still has trade-in value.

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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @08:46PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday June 17 2015, @08:46PM (#197522)

        I get an endless kick out of leaving big, powerful 500 series Mercedes and other luxury gas-powered vehicles standing at the line when the light changes,

        And these other drivers all agreed to street race you at every stoplight, correct?

        Most of them are probably wondering why you're being such an obnoxious speeder all the time.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2015, @01:01AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 18 2015, @01:01AM (#197629)

          Wah! Jack-rabbit starts are fun as hell. Sorry you are so boring.

      • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Thursday June 18 2015, @07:52AM

        by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Thursday June 18 2015, @07:52AM (#197720)

        "without the obnoxious roar of an ICE. "

        I love the 'obnoxious ROAR' my 'vette makes.
        Not to mention its 0-60 time is 5.1 seconds, whereas the BMW (Break My Wallet) i3 EV's time is 6.8 seconds.
        Sure, the top end Teslas will do sub 5 seconds as will the top tier Beemers, (as will any top tier ICE sportscar) but on the average they are no faster than a fun ICE car.
        Leaving a powerful car at the redlight means nothing, as most of us are better drivers than that and don't street race, (utter stupidity) of course, you want to come out on track day, that's a different story.

        Jackrabbit starts are fun though, but never confuse that with actual racing.

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