Stories
Slash Boxes
Comments

SoylentNews is people

posted by takyon on Saturday June 20 2015, @02:02PM   Printer-friendly
from the rip-in-peace dept.

Late last year the UK Government legalized copying for private use, a practice which many citizens already believed to be legal.

But now several music industry organizations in the UK have won a judicial review which renders the government's decision to allow copying for personal use unlawful. According to the High Court, there's insufficient evidence to prove that the legislation doesn't hurt musicians and the industry at large.


Original Submission

 
This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.
Display Options Threshold/Breakthrough Mark All as Read Mark All as Unread
The Fine Print: The following comments are owned by whoever posted them. We are not responsible for them in any way.
  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Gaaark on Saturday June 20 2015, @04:38PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Saturday June 20 2015, @04:38PM (#198728) Journal

    Here in Canada, musicians get paid a royalty for EVERY blank cd sold, even when used for a linux distro or for making birds shy of your garden or coasters or some other non-musical event.

    So... wouldn't it be nice to get paid money for something even if it is never even used for the reason intended.... (like having to pay a Microsoft tax even when you wipe and install linux)....

    There is an unfairness here, but hey, as long as there is money going into the pockets of those like Vanilla Ice or Tiny Tim ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA/ [youtube.com] (will bring milk out your nose especially when you realize there was a time that this guy was B.I.G.!!)

    --
    --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
    Starting Score:    1  point
    Moderation   +1  
       Interesting=1, Total=1
    Extra 'Interesting' Modifier   0  
    Karma-Bonus Modifier   +1  

    Total Score:   3  
  • (Score: 2) by mtrycz on Saturday June 20 2015, @06:04PM

    by mtrycz (60) on Saturday June 20 2015, @06:04PM (#198756)

    In Italy, the SIAE ("Association of authors and editors"), not the musicians, are paid for blank media. Are you really sure the *musicians* get paid in Canada?

    --
    In capitalist America, ads view YOU!
    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Saturday June 20 2015, @07:10PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Saturday June 20 2015, @07:10PM (#198774) Journal

      No... it probably goes to 'someone you can trust' (i even typed that with a straight face!), who 'passes' it on to the musicians/whomever.

      Not my problem... except for playing the baritone in high school (could read the music and play by feel, but could not play a c# etc if asked), my musical skillz suck.

      I love music, but would rather listen than create.

      But then again, pull my finger..... :)

      --
      --- Please remind me if I haven't been civil to you: I'm channeling MDC. ---Gaaark 2.0 ---
      • (Score: 2) by davester666 on Saturday June 20 2015, @09:02PM

        by davester666 (155) on Saturday June 20 2015, @09:02PM (#198798)

        Actually yes, it goes to the Canadian Private Copying Collective, which helpfully holds the money until each individual artists claims their share. Because while they have come up with a method to decide who gets what percentage of the levy collected each year, it is too difficult to actually send the money to that person/group unless they ask for it.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @10:30AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @10:30AM (#199012)

      Musicians don't get paid for it. The record labels do, who then turn around and tell everyone that the money is going *wink wink nudge nudge* to the musicians.

  • (Score: 2) by VortexCortex on Saturday June 20 2015, @10:53PM

    by VortexCortex (4067) on Saturday June 20 2015, @10:53PM (#198820)

    Here in 'Murrica we've had a "Pirate" levy on blank media since DAT cassettes and Betamax / VHS.

    The assumption is that some percent of blank media sold will be used to "pirate" copyrighted works, and so we essentially pay a tax on the floppies, CDs, DVDs, etc. too. It doesn't go to the artists either.

    The way some people see it, if they're already paying for the right to "pirate", might as well "pirate". When I think back on all the additional fees I've paid for when purchasing blank media over the years, it's hard not to imagine how much the media industry owes those of us who don't infringing anyone's copyright.
    I can certainly understand those who figure, "Well, if you're going to do the time, might as well do the crime."

    Personally, I just support musicians / film makers / gamedevs / etc. directly by (crowd)funding their works. Once the work is paid to be created, they put it out for "free" since the public already paid for it (if they don't do it this "FLOSS" / labor market method, I don't contribute funding). Many local musicians fund albums this way where I live in addition to making money doing performances when not recording.

    Also, checkout Jamendo [jamendo.com], Magnatune, [magnatune.com] and more niche groups [youtube.com] which support royalty free / creative commons licenses.

    I might not have much of a choice when it comes to purchasing backup media, but otherwise I choose not to support the corrupt artificial scarcity or rent seeking industries.

    • (Score: 2) by Daiv on Monday June 22 2015, @03:47PM

      by Daiv (3940) on Monday June 22 2015, @03:47PM (#199454)

      'Murica only levies CD-A's. Not all blank media and certainly did not and does not levy Betamax or VHS. The levies are on the recording devices as well, not the media, aside from CD-A's.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @04:42PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @04:42PM (#199119)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy [wikipedia.org]

    So not only are you guilty until proven innocent but in fact you cannot be proven innocent...