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"At some point as a country, we have to reckon with what happens. It's not enough to express sympathy. You don't see this kind of murder, on this scale, with this kind of frequency in other advanced countries on earth." - President Obama.
Discuss.
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(Score: 2, Funny) by Anonymous Coward on Saturday June 20 2015, @11:54PM
This is exactly what we should discuss here. We need to ban everyone but the wise government from having guns.
-- gewg_
(Score: 5, Insightful) by SpockLogic on Sunday June 21 2015, @12:10AM
It's another example of the American Disease™:- almost unfettered access to weapons of war that kill with brutal efficiency.
There is insufficient political will to look for a cure.
Wave hands in horror, wash blood from collective hands, rinse and repeat.
Nothing to see, move along now.
Overreacting is one thing, sticking your head up your ass hoping the problem goes away is another - edIII
(Score: 0, Troll) by Ethanol-fueled on Sunday June 21 2015, @12:26AM
This is only stoking discussion because the killer had a stupid haircut and dumb facial expressions. And also to divide and conquer Americans who may have more important things to discuss now.
(Score: 5, Interesting) by dusty monkey on Sunday June 21 2015, @01:34AM
It's another example of the American Disease™
This guy killed 29, injured 130 [cnn.com] .... with a knife, in a train station, in a country with extremely strict gun control laws.
(thats not a typo.. killed 29.. injured 130 .. one hundred fucking thirty injured)
Rampage killings [wikipedia.org] are neither unique to America nor places with a lack of gun control laws.
Liberals always believe that they've got it all figured out, but often seem to not have even the basic facts straight, and when confronted with this they just find other reasons to support the same conclusions.
- when you vote for the lesser of two evils, you are still voting for evil - stop supporting evil -
(Score: 5, Informative) by c0lo on Sunday June 21 2015, @06:14AM
Oh, how fast the language evolves: we're using now singulars for... what...less than a dozen people? From the quoted link:
So, in one corner 10 persons manage to kill 29 and injure 130 in a busy train station. In the other corner, 1 (one) puny looking guy shoots dead 9 others, stopped because no others were handy.
Place your bets on where the next rampage is most likely to be announced.
Ready? So... who bet West Philadelphia [foxnews.com] - 7 wounded in random shooting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 2) by c0lo on Sunday June 21 2015, @08:19AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoFiw2jMy-0 https://soylentnews.org/~MichaelDavidCrawford
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @09:06PM
Red herring. What does the fact that knives can be used to kill people have to do with the fact that guns are extremely deadly weapons with no use outside of murder? And the fact that gun control laws aren't 100% perfectly effective isn't relevant either. Insulators and conductors aren't perfect either, so does that mean we shouldn't bother using them? Should we stop using combustion engines because their efficiency is below 100%?
(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @02:30AM
We need to ban everyone but the wise government from having guns. [emphasis added]
I can't tell. Sarcasm right?
I don't trust my govt, AND I don't trust rednecks with guns-- but, I repeat myself.
As we disarm the general public, we need to disarm the police. We also need to severely punish (firing squad?) all those in power responsible for sending the military against civilians (has happened pretty frequently in the US, with civilian deaths in several of the incidents).
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @03:23AM
That is all.
-- gewg_