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"At some point as a country, we have to reckon with what happens. It's not enough to express sympathy. You don't see this kind of murder, on this scale, with this kind of frequency in other advanced countries on earth." - President Obama.
Discuss.
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In Tulsa, Oklahoma, it is against the law to open a soda bottle without
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(Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 21 2015, @02:34AM
"eradicated the cause of mass shootings: Guns."
More nonsense. The cause of a killing is hatred, envy, greed, or some twisted glory, or fear. The gun is the preferred TOOL in many killings, but the TOOL didn't CAUSE the crime.
Load of garbage, you say? Yes, indeed, you posted a load of garbage. Please, refresh your acquaintance with the scientific method.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @03:21AM
I would add that those things you describe are systemic to other issues.
We do not have enough jobs. When you dont have a job you end up warehoused in this nation. You end up living off the gov with no way out. Eventually you feel trapped and have nothing to lose. We think we can tax our way to prosperity. Instead we let our political class let all of our jobs go to the lowest bidder.
I only as if you people say we can remove 1 of our rights which other ones will be up for grabs when it is politically convenient? Our constitution is designed to *limit* the government. Not make it bigger.
One of the freedoms I have is owning a gun. It is a freedom I do not engage in. But I defend.
(Score: 2, Informative) by tftp on Monday June 22 2015, @01:59AM
The cause of a killing is hatred, envy, greed, or some twisted glory, or fear. The gun is the preferred TOOL in many killings, but the TOOL didn't CAUSE the crime.
Someone called Rodion Raskol'nikov [wikipedia.org] killed two people with an ax. He was driven by a social idea that needed testing. It does not matter if he had a knife, an ax, or a silenced gun. If none of that is available, he'd pick a brick in the street. Removal of a tool from the society will only lead to criminals switching to other weapons. Humans had no trouble finding a weapon from the very moment they climbed down the tree and walked upright. And then weaker victims would have no means of resisting a strong man. Do we want to return to the times when personal strength was everything, and personal intelligence meant nothing? What can ten highly enlightened beings sitting at Starbucks do against ten less enlightened beings with bats and chains and knives? Are they OK with their own murder?
Quite a few people point fingers at Europe as an example of a peaceful and disarmed society. However they ignore the fact that the European society is not disarmed. It's still armed - but the arms belong to the government and are used only by the government. The idea of a benevolent, all-wise government is very attractive; the only problem is that such governments don't exist. People who surrender their arms to the government also accept that the government will now control their life - no matter how good or how bad that government is or may become in the future. Life of a modern slave is not all that bad. However a slave, being a property, will receive only minimal protection by the government. In UK, for example, a subject is expected to curl up and die instead of striking his assailant. This is because the government does not worry much about loss of a single worker ant. But the same government fears weapons in hands of those worker ants - especially if those ants get tired of being randomly killed off.