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"At some point as a country, we have to reckon with what happens. It's not enough to express sympathy. You don't see this kind of murder, on this scale, with this kind of frequency in other advanced countries on earth." - President Obama.
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(Score: 2) by GungnirSniper on Sunday June 21 2015, @06:01AM
If you exclude dangerous minorities from the statistics, America's gun crime rate is on par with other first world nations.
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(Score: 3, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @07:18AM
Can we have a "Citation Needed" mod option, plz ?
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @04:47PM
Does it matter? European crime statistics conveniently leave out eastern Europe entirely and everyone except the United States leaves out suicides and accidents when discussing gun violence. When the two compared, it is actually all gun deaths in the US versus only actual gun crimes in countries that are highly ordered in western Europe. This is common knowledge but is constantly overlooked, just like the alcohol issue killing 3-12 times as many people as guns do yet is applauded as a valuable cultural heritage.
(Score: 2, Flamebait) by mendax on Sunday June 21 2015, @09:22AM
Oh yes! Lincoln should have deported all those uppity niggers back to Africa. Oh, and we should build a a huge moat along the southern border to keep all those criminal spics and wetbacks out stealing our jobs. Oh, wait, that's all those curry-eating bastards from India.
I hope others can see the sarcasm dripping from this post before I get horribly flamed.
It's really quite a simple choice: Life, Death, or Los Angeles.
(Score: 2) by jmorris on Sunday June 21 2015, @10:35AM
Simpler. America's violent crime rate isn't that bad, period. And if you look at the Red areas, ya know where most of the actual guns are, crime is very low and dropping. Crime is a problem in the Blue Hellholes where Democrats misrule and generally make firearm ownership most difficult and policing erratic and ineffective. More guns, less crime; it really is that simple. Robert Heinlein's "An armed society is a polite society." has now been subjected to about as good of a real life experimental trial as happens in the social sciences and the results are indisputable. But we can't talk about that because it would ruin the Narrative.
And Obama, along with pretty much every other Democrat politician and media outlet, is simply lying about 'no other advanced country' having problems of this sort. They do it every time there is one of these incidents occurs so we have had this conversation too many times. Google is your friend but if you aren't a Democrat (and thus on the left hand of the Bell Curve) you probably remember enough from the news to know it is BS.
(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 21 2015, @08:28PM
[Citation Needed]
Stop watching Fox News so much. The facts show the opposite [addictinginfo.org] of the biased bullshit you're trying to pass off as truth.
(Score: 2) by dry on Sunday June 21 2015, @06:39PM
What about if you exclude dangerous minorities in the other first world countries? Where I am, the gun crime is mostly gangs consisting of first generation immigrants from various countries such as India, various African countries, Eastern European countries and so on.