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posted by takyon on Wednesday June 24 2015, @11:00PM   Printer-friendly

In South Carolina, the governor has called for the Confederate flag to stop flying over the capitol. The governors of Virginia and North Carolina quickly declared that they would remove the flag from state license plates. Meanwhile, several of the country's top retailers -- including eBay and Amazon -- announced in quick succession that they would stop selling Confederate flag merchandise. Now MJ Lee reports at CNN that the debate over the Confederate flag is the most recent and vivid illustration of how changes in the business community can influence and pressure politics. "What you are seeing is a broad, acknowledgment across both the consumer, the political and the business community that that particular emblem is no longer part of something that should be a state-issued emblem," says GOP strategist Scott Jennings.

Walmart, Amazon, eBay and Sears announced within the span of one day that they would ban the sale of Confederate flag merchandise from their stores, saying they had no intention of offending customers. As Walmart CEO Doug McMillon put it, the decision was straightforward: "We want everybody to feel comfortable shopping at Walmart." Corporate and business leaders say that the abandoning the flag is a step towards inclusiveness for a region that has long struggled to shed negative images. "The business community -- they have a lot of say and power all over the country, whether it's on religion or ethnicity or LGBT issues," says Ralph Northam. "When you're running a business, you have to have the doors open and welcome diversity."

takyon: Alabama Governor Orders Removal Of Confederate Flags From Capitol
'Dukes of Hazzard' toy car General Lee loses its Confederate flag

Note: These moves are in response to the events in Charleston.


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  • (Score: 4, Funny) by Gaaark on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:02AM

    by Gaaark (41) on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:02AM (#200674) Journal

    So when someone kills a bunch of people and they find video of that person wrapping themselves in an American flag and marching to Souza and carrying a sign saying 'Don't do hard drugs', will America ban the sales of American flags and marching music and promote the sale of cocaine to minors?????

    So much over-reaction........

    (and please have them carrying a Celine Dion CD.... we NEED her music to be banned EVERYWHERE!!!)

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  • (Score: 0, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:06AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:06AM (#200677)

    > will America ban the sales of American flags

    It ought to be painfully obvious that the confederate flag does not have anything like the same social context as the American flag.

    I am curious why you are unable to recognize context. Is it a willful choice because you are racist? Are you developmentally impaired? Or are you just a troll?

    • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:32AM

      by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:32AM (#200685) Journal
      (I wish you would have stopped at the first phrase)
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      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:37AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @12:37AM (#200691)

        > (I wish you would have stopped at the first phrase)

        The first phrase is so self-evident that it did not even need to be said.
        The only thing of value that can come from his post is the examination of his motives. What kind of thought process leads to someone denying such a glaringly obvious truth?

        • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 25 2015, @01:05AM

          by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 25 2015, @01:05AM (#200700) Journal

          The only thing of value that can come from his post is the examination of his motives ... What kind of thought process leads to someone denying such a glaringly obvious truth?

          There could be many reasons for his post.

          E.g. not being aware of the symbolism - I'm not an US resident, my grasp of the history of US is at a general culture level**, I was very tempted to make the same argument.
          Even more, I put a very low value on nationalism and/or local patriotism as "everyday-life moral values" - it is the people that matter. As such, for me, flags have a low semantic load.. meh, just a visual substitute to designate a country or an area, why bother? If the people have an attachment to the flag, let them be.

          (the above as two examples of judgements that can lead to the post without any negative load)

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          ** excerpts from my knowledge of US history
          Yeah, they used to have slavery, some president beat the crap out of slave owners and let the black race people free to be just discriminated against instead of full slavery.
          The indigenous people helped them stay alive at the beginning, the instituted a "Thanksgiving day" once a year, then killed them for the rest of the days in the year.

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          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:14AM

            by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:14AM (#200725)

            Considering his bitching about celine dion, I'm going to go with he is a resident of north america if not the USA. He is free to explain himself, you don't need to make up excuses for him.

            • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:38AM

              by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:38AM (#200742) Journal

              He is free to explain himself, you don't need to make up excuses for him.

              He doesn't need to explain himself, especially to a flaming AC
              I'm not making excuses for him, I was answering to your remarks regarding my "(I wish you would have stopped at the first phrase)" - please don't make me sorry I did.

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              • (Score: -1, Flamebait) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:45AM

                by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:45AM (#200747)

                > He doesn't need to explain himself, especially to a flaming AC.

                Oooh. Standing up for an asshole! Yay!
                You know, simply framing your words mildly doesn't make the ideas expressed in them any less evil.

                > please don't make me sorry I did.

                You are free to feel as sorry as you want.

  • (Score: 1, Informative) by jrmcferren on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:14AM

    by jrmcferren (5500) on Thursday June 25 2015, @02:14AM (#200726) Homepage

    They is already a push to ban that one too: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/06/24/farrakhan-i-dont-get-debate-over-confederate-flag-we-need-to-put-the-american-flag-down/ [breitbart.com]

    Rush Limbaugh said this would happen.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @03:26AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Thursday June 25 2015, @03:26AM (#200767)

      > Rush Limbaugh said this would happen.

      Limbaugh predicted Farrakhan would say something over the top and nobody but the extreme right would pay attention?

      You know Limbaugh is a comedian right? Maybe you haven't listened to him enough to figure that out yet. His schtick is to get apoplectic over some non-issue and see how many dittoheads he can wind up in the process.

    • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Thursday June 25 2015, @01:17PM

      by Gaaark (41) on Thursday June 25 2015, @01:17PM (#200929) Journal

      I was joking and then WHOOSH, it became my reality. Go figure...

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