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posted by takyon on Friday June 26 2015, @05:30PM   Printer-friendly
from the love-and-divorce dept.

In a 5-4 decision, the United States Supreme Court has ruled that states can not prevent same-sex couples from marrying and must recognize their marriages from other states. In the majority opinion by Justice Kennedy it is stated:

The Court, in this decision, holds same-sex couples may exercise the fundamental right to marry in all States. It follows that the Court also must hold—and it now does hold—that there is no lawful basis for a State to refuse to recognize a lawful same-sex marriage performed in another State on the ground of its same-sex character.

...and:

It would misunderstand these men and women to say they disrespect the idea of marriage. Their plea is that they do respect it, respect it so deeply that they seek to find its fulfillment for themselves. Their hope is not to be condemned to live in loneliness, excluded from one of civilization's oldest institutions. They ask for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right. The judgment of the Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit is reversed. It is so ordered.


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  • (Score: 2) by edIII on Saturday June 27 2015, @11:36PM

    by edIII (791) on Saturday June 27 2015, @11:36PM (#202263)

    Are you saying that your claims that gay men only adopt children for sodomy is legitimate dissent based on logic and reason, and that we should quietly respect your reasoned beliefs? If it's not all gay men by default, and only a percentage thereof, are you still saying they must be removed from child rearing duties while straight couples are ignored?

    Hardly.

    It will be used to vilify Americans who are unwilling to assent to the new orthodoxy

    You mean that in about 20 years we will regard you just as we currently regard KKK members? They're still unwilling to submit to aspects of the new orthodoxy after more than a hundred years too. Additionally, at the time there was "empirical" evidence that the Negro brain was inferior providing the so-called scientific support for their positions. Your claims of pervasive motives to sodomize children suffer from even less alleged evidence than they had, and is regarded with even less respect in the scientific and medical community. You were already well lambasted by Soylentils that possess medical and psychiatric knowledge and expertise. As you cannot got toe-to-toe on a scientific basis for more than a few weak sentences, your positions supporting your homophobia are weak indeed.

    That's really all you have. Your weak and pathetic attempt to defend your bigotry as our intellectual failures to argue with you properly. I believe you know this is true, but will attempt to raise reason and logic as your shield nonetheless passionately proclaiming your victim-hood.

    You have no scientific claims to make that same-sex relationships, much less marriages, are harmful. That extends to same-sex relationships where children are involved. I can't help but notice that most of the stresses incurred by these families come from the direction of *you* and *your* supporters in their life. Nothing inherently is stressful about a same-sex marriage more so than a traditional marriage, but having to listen and contend with bigotry everywhere *is*.

    So if we remove your assholishness from the equation, I can't find *any* logical or reasoned positions that show inherent social failures in same-sex relationships. As your assholishness is abating, and the gay community is more included, all we see is yet more evidence of how you are full of shit in regards to your positions.

    Just like how we stopped listening to the KKK members complaining about their interrupted lynchings to preserve white america, we are going to stop listening to you and your fear mongering about how two men loving each other will bring about the downfall of straight america, and then the world.

     

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  • (Score: 2) by Runaway1956 on Sunday June 28 2015, @01:11AM

    by Runaway1956 (2926) Subscriber Badge on Sunday June 28 2015, @01:11AM (#202281) Journal

    "You have no scientific claims to make that same-sex relationships, much less marriages, are harmful."

    And, you have no scientific basis upon which to make claims that it is NOT harmful. I've pointed out that even the ancient Greeks rejected the idea. There were legitimate reasons for doing so.

    Oh, the pedophilia thing - you really should research NAMBLA better - except, a lot of the LGBT and NAMBLA relationship has been "sanitized" to the best of the gay community's ability. You can still find photos of NAMBLA officials hugging and kissing LBGT officials on the same stage, but they get harder to find every day.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2015, @02:18AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday June 28 2015, @02:18AM (#202303)

      And, you have no scientific basis upon which to make claims that it is NOT harmful.

      Your fallacies are argument from ignorance [logicallyfallacious.com] and burden of proof [yourlogicalfallacyis.com].