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posted by takyon on Monday June 29 2015, @09:30AM   Printer-friendly
from the corporatizing-the-gay-bouquet dept.

San Francisco -- and the tech industry -- are beaming with Pride this weekend.

The United States Supreme Court on Friday ruled same-sex marriage a constitutional right, one day before San Francisco begins its famous Pride festivities, one of the largest celebrations of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender -- aka LGBT -- culture in the country. The tech industry is practically euphoric, especially after high-profile executives this year, from Apple CEO Tim Cook to Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff, publicly advocated advancing gay rights. But that advancement works both ways, said Gary Virginia, board president of SF Pride, which organizes the celebration. Speaking out is not just a personal decision for tech execs; it makes good business sense too, he said.

"They attract a younger population for their workforce, and it's been proven that social attitudes are changing," said Virginia. "So it behooves them to have progressive policies to attract LGBT employees. I think they see the benefit of it."

The celebration caps off a landmark year for the gay rights movement. In September, Apple's Cook wrote an essay saying he's gay, making him the first openly gay CEO of a Fortune 500 company. A month later, he allowed for his name to be attached to an LGBT anti-discrimination bill in his home state of Alabama. In March, Benioff said he had cancelled all Salesforce events in Indiana after its governor signed a law that would allow businesses to refuse service to anyone in the LGBT community on religious grounds. Less than a week later, dozens of executives from Airbnb, Ebay, Jawbone, Lyft, PayPal, Twitter and other companies signed a joint statement in The Washington Post against the religious freedom laws either passed or being considered in several states.

The tech industry is a relatively recent ally. LGBT leaders point out it's taken decades to achieve Friday's Supreme Court decision. New York City, for example, is commemorating the anniversary of the 1969 riots at the Stonewall Inn, which many consider the jump start of the movement. The 1978 assassination of Harvey Milk, an openly gay San Francisco board supervisor, galvanized the national LGBT community.


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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by takyon on Monday June 29 2015, @04:48PM

    by takyon (881) <takyonNO@SPAMsoylentnews.org> on Monday June 29 2015, @04:48PM (#202883) Journal

    Meanwhile if I were baking wedding cakes (my MiL used to do this as a side/retirement business, she's all artsy and sculpture-ish) then I would NEVER sell to a black lesbian liberal or whatever because looking at the bell curve lets face it, 1% of my cakes are naturally going to be extra shitty and if I sell that bad cake to a straight white girl worst case is I lose $1000 in small claims court, but if the luck of the draw goes to some weirdo then I'll get the economic death penalty because shitty cake only happens because of hatred, and its just plain old not worth it to risk my life and my families life to entertain "those people". I mean, they're not even "my people" I'd be risking my life over. Go pick up a pilsbury mix at the store and make your own damn cake I have no interesting in gambling with my children's future just to make a lesbian a cake. I mean, sure 99% odds a lesbian would love my delicious cake, and I get along with lesbians and have nothing against them, but its just statistics, I see no reason to destroy my kids lives and my own life just in case the dice roll is bad and she gets a bad cake therefore SHE decides I must hate lesbians even though I don't much care one way or the other (well other than normal straight guy "can I watch" idiocy). So sure I'd be the guy trying not to sell a cake to a lesbian even though I basically like them.

    but its just statistics

    It's just prejudice. You don't have any statistics about black people being more litigative or more successful at litigation. Luck of the draw? You must have missed all the crazy [metro.co.uk] white [nydailynews.com] people [mirror.co.uk] out there (courtesy Fark.com).

    By your logic, you should be living in a bunker and growing your own food. After all, you are rolling the dice whenever you talk to a white heterosexual or any other human being. You should start a mail-order cake business that sells only to the physically handicapped.

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  • (Score: 2) by VLM on Monday June 29 2015, @07:01PM

    by VLM (445) on Monday June 29 2015, @07:01PM (#202954)

    You should start a mail-order cake business that sells only to the physically handicapped.

    Nah, if I was asked to draw Mohammed (yeah that one) in a wheelchair and I refused for religious reasons, the SJWs would burn my store to the ground and destroy me and my family, because obviously the only reason I'd turn down a handicapped customer is because I hate them, and hate is now a capital crime according to SJWs.

    I did come up with an interesting solution to the problem which is legal abolishment of bespoke cake making.

    So my MiL can make homemade wedding cakes all day without a care in the world if the happy couple is gay or furries or pedos or poly or even (gasp) default. Then next door the cake store can sell any cake to anyone who walks in the door all day long. Everyone wins.

    Its not possible to prosecute my MiL for hate crime if she insists on covering her cakes with bible verse references or all her homemade frosting sculptures involve one and only one adult male and one and only one adult female. Of course other folk are free not to buy her cakes but at least they can't firebomb her house and kill her kids or enslave her or threaten her with death unless she puts two dudes on the cake. Actually she's pretty mellow and would probably be cool with two adult dudes, but she'd probably draw the line at the pedo. Give society 20 more years and not supporting that will be a capital crime too, then again she'll be 100+ so it'll no longer be relevant to her.

    And the store is safe because its highly unlikely the store would care who bought what and not being "arty" they don't need to make a connection with their customers they just need to trade $ for delicious cake. I've never had a cashier ask about my orientation, like, anywhere, ever. Want a delicious cake that has "wedding" written on it? Awesome I don't care if you toss it off a bridge to celebrate your divorce or WTF, just keep buying my delicious cake.

    See the important distinction is if someone asks her to write "Jesus loves gay people" and she doesn't write that, they can enslave and kill her and destroy her family, but if she never talks to the buyer and just happens to never write "Jesus loves gay people" all on her own free will, then she's safe and they can't use the government to enslave and destroy her.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 29 2015, @07:51PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 29 2015, @07:51PM (#202970)

      Nah, if I was asked to draw Mohammed (yeah that one) in a wheelchair and I refused for religious reasons, the SJWs would burn my store to the ground and destroy me and my family, because obviously the only reason I'd turn down a handicapped customer is because I hate them, and hate is now a capital crime according to SJWs.

      Jesus christ can you not hear the over-the-top crazy in your words? If I didn't know you from your posting history I'd think you were writing deliberate parody.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @12:16AM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @12:16AM (#203092)

        "Everything is the fault of SJWs!" ... Sounds strangely familiar... "Everything is the fault of the Jews!", "Everything is the fault of the niggers!", "Everything is the fault of gypsies!", "Everything is the fault of Muslims!". Oh! Now I recognize it, its just standard bigotry and hate-propaganda.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @12:39PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @12:39PM (#203279)

          "Everything is the fault of SJWs!"

          No, not everything, except all of the Politically Correct thought policing is their fault. That's where the PC term even comes from, so it is the fault of SJWs.

          The recent batch of Internet censorship that's coming down the pike is being paraded by SJWs as a blow against "Hate Speech" and "Online Harrassment" (meanwhile schoolgirls say worse things about each other IRL, but we feel no need to persecute school children for "hate crimes"...yet). Believe it or not when SJWs have intercourse with society and/or its politics, they really do cause harm. As one example, look at how SJWs removed due process in rape accusations. [human-stupidity.com] And turned campuses into toxic places for men with "Teach men not to rape" and various forms of ridiculous campus rape hysteria -- As if men didn't get raped (why not teach women not to rape?); As if without said classes male college students would be raping people by their very nature (ignoring that rapists make up a small percentage of society and they already know it's wrong to rape but do so anyway). Now it's becoming safer for men not to go to such colleges because even if they are SJWs themselves all it takes is one vindictive ex to anonymously report them and they'll not be able to prove their innocence since the event never happened to have evidence of (guilty until proven innocent really is the norm now thanks to policy stemming from the "Dear Colleagues" letter, look that up).

          Here's the very sane thought that you don't seem to grasp: If the SJWs hadn't pushed for the ability to ruin lives over "hate speech" then people wouldn't be afraid of incurring wrath for the most minor misstep. Personally, the moment anyone brings up their LGBTQIAPPOF status I disassociate from them unless they're a member of my family or a trusted friend. I do this because I've been falsely accused of being a bigot for having an ordinary disagreement the same as I typically have with other friends, family, etc. The asshole then spread rumors of this "hate crime" and tried to have me fired though the disagreement was not at work and of a political nature, not out of hate: I don't support state recognized marriages, straight or homosexual; And I think gay marriage is sexist since it ignores bisexuality -- Shouldn't bisexuals be able to marry both a man and woman? I was ostracized from several groups of friends thanks to this SJW -- Their LGBTQIAPPOF status was irrelevant, but the social and legal frameworks which allow SJWs to destroy the lives of others is relevant. I've been burned and learned my lesson: Better safe than sorry. Any SJW vibes and I'm out.

          Note the double standard in that there is no SJW trumpeting "hate crime" every time a gay says something like "fuck off breeder" to a straight person, nor when someone says "Kill the white devils" to whites or advocates for the genocide of males "#killallmen" [youtube.com]. So, it really is safer to avoid the situations altogether. Ironcially, it's safer than ever to hanging out with straight white men since SJWs hate them and won't try to ruin your life if you offend a straight white man. In the name of destroying a "boys club" the SJW has made that the most desirable club to have. Some of my friends and family are queer, and I love them. They're not SJWs, so it's safe to be around them, but when it comes to strangers I would rather walk out the door if they don a "minority status victim card" and begin talking about SocJus Politically Correct thought police. [youtube.com] I'll avoid those people for the same reason I helped my son select a different college that wasn't an SJW indoctrination camp [thefire.org] and had a policy of involving the police instead of destroying lives via anonymous rape accusation and Inquisitorial Star Chamber where you don't get to confront your accuser and actual rapists get away with a slap on the wrist. There have been cases where the police later exonerated people accused of campus rape and yet the colleges upheld the student's expulsion and defacto blacklisting by leaving "rapist" in their records. Wouldn't you say it's sane to avoid such situations? If so, then it's also sane to avoid other situations that are equally as dangerous.

          It's not my fault that SJWs have fucked up our culture and legal system with their Political Correctness -- Their divisionist ideology is to blame for my aversion to random LGBTQIAPPOF people. 9/10 times a person who throws their sexuality or minority status in my face turns out to be one of the useful idiots parroting this destructive ideology, so I've learned to distance myself as the divisionists who created the ideology would have us do. There is real bigoted hate being normalized in this society, but it's from SJWs against anyone they don't like. If you can't see that, you either haven't looked or must be blind. You have no excuse not to see now since I've provided links, one that goes to Foundation for Individual Rights in Education [thefire.org], which has plenty of examples of SJWs skewering people who don't obey their speech laws on campus -- That's right, simply misspeak or have words taken out of context by SJWs and you may need the legal services like FIRE provides. So, who's insane? The cautious individual insulating themselves from the poisonous culture surrounding them, or the person like you maintaining bigoted ignorance of real problems created by the toxic social justice warrior ideology?

          • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @01:34PM

            by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @01:34PM (#203297)

            You mad, bro?

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 01 2015, @03:38PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 01 2015, @03:38PM (#203803)

      Ofcourse the cunt would draw the line at pedo: she is a woman, man+girl child is against her interests because she is older. The other things are not and do not bother her. This is how women work.

      Deuteronomy 22 28-29, hebrew.
      Nothing wrong with pedo of man+girl.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 29 2015, @08:03PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 29 2015, @08:03PM (#202981)

    > It's just prejudice. You don't have any statistics about black people being more litigative or more successful at litigation.

    They're looking at worse case: being made a social pariah by people prone to jump to conclusions that any mistake is malicious.

    That has nothing to do with whoever is more likely to sue. Fact is, you can be openly racist against white people and get away with it in today's culture. There are no "white rights groups" or anyone else to jump down someone's throat when they're being racist.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @11:16PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @11:16PM (#203559)

    It's just prejudice. You don't have any statistics about black people being more litigative or more successful at litigation.

    It's not blacks, it's social justice warriors and you're selectively ignoring SJWs having the head of Harvard fired over merely hypothesizing (not actually believing) that STEM sexual bias in enrollment might be genetic. [youtube.com] Or, about the SJWs filing title IX harassment charges against professors for not taking "safe spaces" and "trigger warnings" seriously enough for their tastes. [youtube.com]

    Meanwhile, #BlackLivesMatters protesters disrupt a Gay Pride parade, with actual shots fired. [thegatewaypundit.com] SJWs are to be avoided and delegitimatized, it's dangerous not to do so. So, we have decades of examples of SJWs being very litigative and harassing. Where are your counter examples indicating that caution isn't warranted?