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posted by cmn32480 on Tuesday June 30 2015, @10:31AM   Printer-friendly
from the side-of-nightmare-with-your-space-elevator dept.

Spiders sprayed with water containing carbon nanotubes and graphene flakes have produced the toughest fibers ever measured, say materials scientists.

Spider silk is one of the more extraordinary materials known to science. The protein fiber, spun by spiders to make webs, is stronger than almost anything that humans can make.

The dragline silk spiders use to make a web's outer rim and spokes is amazing stuff. It matches high-grade alloy steel for tensile strength but is about a sixth as dense. It is also highly ductile, sometimes capable of stretching to five times its length.

This combination of strength and ductility makes spider silk extremely tough, matching the toughness of state-of-the-art carbon fibers such as Kevlar.

No word in the article on how close to the necessary tensile strength for a space elevator they come. Or how quickly the spiders got cancer. But at least it's a simple process. I wonder if the same technique will work with silkworms, which are commercially viable (something that spiders aren't).


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  • (Score: 3, Informative) by threedigits on Tuesday June 30 2015, @10:59AM

    by threedigits (607) on Tuesday June 30 2015, @10:59AM (#203264)

    No word indeed about that cancer thing, that is just Andy's attempt at humour. Better luck next time. Thanks for the article, though.

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  • (Score: 5, Funny) by AndyTheAbsurd on Tuesday June 30 2015, @11:39AM

    by AndyTheAbsurd (3958) on Tuesday June 30 2015, @11:39AM (#203274) Journal

    Actually, it was SirFinkus' idea (and I didn't check if there was any research on it - isn't that what editors are FOR?). Mine was a "your mom" joke, which is not something I usually rely on but I was really tired. Here's how it went down in the IRC last night:

    [20:53:56] <+cmn32480> hiya kids
    [20:54:07] <+cmn32480> and adults (if any exist here)
    [20:54:59]  * cmn32480 shakes the submission tin LOUDLY
    [20:57:16]  * cmn32480 shakes the submission tin LOUDLY
    [20:57:27] < BadCoderFinger> Heh!
    [20:59:22] <+cmn32480> Heh! waht?
    [20:59:51] <+cmn32480> the queue looks like a bachelor's cupboard.... empty with a side of tumbleweed
    [21:03:38] < AndyTheAbsurd> did we do this one yet? http://www.technologyreview.com/view/537301/spiders-ingest-nanotubes-then-weave-silk-reinforced-with-carbon/
    [21:03:40] < exec>   └─ Spiders Ingest Nanotubes, Then Weave Silk Reinforced with Carbon | MIT Technology Review
    [21:03:48] < BadCoderFinger> Dangit. Now I have to find a tumbleweed.
    [21:04:04] < AndyTheAbsurd> or the 3D printed jet engine?
    [21:05:14] <+cmn32480> not tht I have seen
    [21:18:52] < SirFinkus> fucking nanotubes again
    [21:19:31] < SirFinkus> what haven't carbon nanotubes theoretically done?
    [21:20:21] < SirFinkus> I say theoretically, because I haven't seen the awesome batteries/superstrong materials/world peace every article about
                            them seems to promise
    [21:20:23] < AndyTheAbsurd> they theoretically haven't done your mom.
    [21:20:26] < AndyTheAbsurd> THEORETICALLY.
    [21:20:39] < SirFinkus> all they seem to actually do is cause cancer
    [21:20:57] < SirFinkus> my mother would need more than a nanotube
    [21:21:23] < SirFinkus> but yeah, apparently if you breathe them in, instacancer

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  • (Score: 2) by looorg on Tuesday June 30 2015, @01:40PM

    by looorg (578) on Tuesday June 30 2015, @01:40PM (#203300)

    Do spiders even live long enough to develop cancer? What is the average life expectancy of a spider? There probably isn't enough time for them to develop cancer under their normal lifespan. So it's probably safe to feed them some delicious nanotubes, perhaps PETA should have a campaign. But I doubt they ever will since spiders just are not cute enough.
    The more interesting thing might be what happens to their offspring; do they get any kinda of special powers or not.

    • (Score: 1) by Francis on Tuesday June 30 2015, @02:59PM

      by Francis (5544) on Tuesday June 30 2015, @02:59PM (#203316)

      Age has little to do with it, number of cell divisions is the issue. Every time the cells divide you have the possibility of damage that will cause cancer. You can damage DNA at other times, but it tends to be more likely to be repaired correctly than if it's just one strand.

      Humans have cells dieing and being replaced rapidly. The life span of a cell in the human body is between about 3 days and about 50+ years.

      • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @03:04PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @03:04PM (#203318)

        Age has little to do with it, number of cell divisions is the issue.

        Tell that to whales. They have far far more cells, and so more cell divisions.
        http://www.nature.com/news/massive-animals-may-hold-secrets-of-cancer-suppression-1.12258 [nature.com]
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peto%27s_paradox [wikipedia.org]

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @04:05PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 30 2015, @04:05PM (#203338)

          Does that mean that naked mole rats are actually dwarf giant kaiju monsters?
          Hmm. Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

    • (Score: 2) by penguinoid on Wednesday July 01 2015, @05:27AM

      by penguinoid (5331) on Wednesday July 01 2015, @05:27AM (#203631)

      since spiders just are not cute enough.

      Lies! [google.com]

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