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Oregon ended marijuana prohibition at midnight Wednesday, joining Colorado, Washington state, Alaska and the District of Columbia in legalizing recreational use of the drug.
The new law means Oregon likely will reap benefits that appear to have followed legalization elsewhere: Reduced crime, from a legal industry supplanting a black market; higher tax revenue, once weed is legal to sell; and police forces and courts unburdened by droves of misdemeanor pot offenders.
Oregon voters in November approved Measure 91 with 56 percent of the vote. As of now, adults 21 and older can legally possess up to eight ounces of marijuana inside their home and up to one ounce outside. Adults can grow up to four plants per household, out of public view.
Sign of the times.
Original Submission
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 03 2015, @01:07AM
(Score: 2) by tathra on Friday July 03 2015, @01:23AM
you're conflating "being intoxicated at work" with "being intoxicated in one's free time". drug tests only test for metabolites, to show whether you have done the drug in the past week or month, they do not show if you are currently intoxicated. if somebody is fucked up on the job enough that there's liability issues, that's grounds to fire them already, whether or not the employees get intoxicated during their free time is a red herring.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 03 2015, @01:39AM
you're conflating "being intoxicated at work" with "being intoxicated in one's free time".
I disagree.
have done the drug in the past week or month,
Won't show up in a urine test, what the original poster was speaking of.
My view is to treat other recreational drug use just like it is treated for alcohol. If they're intoxicated at work, then sorry, boot them (unless it's due to a recognized disability-related issue and they're not in a position where they put themselves or others at risk). If they drank alcohol some point in the past month, then it's not a legitimate concern of the employer.
(Score: 3, Informative) by tathra on Friday July 03 2015, @02:56AM
here's a chart [erowid.org] with drug detection times. so yes, like i said, all drug tests do is determine whether you've used drugs in the past week or month, not whether you are currently intoxicated. at least learn the basics [wikipedia.org] of the subject. what employees do during their free time is none of their boss's business, period. employees should be based on their performance, not on whether or not their boss approves of what they do during their time off. the sole purpose of employee drug testing is to violate employees' privacy and rights.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Friday July 03 2015, @04:14AM
so yes, like i said, all drug tests do is determine whether you've used drugs in the past week or month, not whether you are currently intoxicated.
I don't get that impression from the chart. The times discussed are well within the range needed to test for current intoxication.
(Score: 2) by tathra on Friday July 03 2015, @06:45AM
except they don't indicate intoxication, they indicate whether you've used the drug recently, not whether you are currently on them. if they tested for intoxication only, there would only be a detection period of a couple hours, not days. it is not possible to determine with a standard drug test if the person is on drugs at the time of the test or if they did it days ago. if drug tests were solely to detect current intoxication then they wouldn't be the rights and privacy violation that they are.
(Score: 1) by khallow on Saturday July 04 2015, @12:37AM
(Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Friday July 03 2015, @07:03AM
"I don't get that impression from the chart. The times discussed are well within the range needed to test for current intoxication."
You're kidding right?
SUBSTANCE BLOOD SALIVA SWEAT URINE HAIR
Shortest Detectability - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Longest Detectability
Alcohol 12 hrs 6-12 hrs unknown 6-24 hrs (5 days with EtG) n/a
Amphetamine 12 hrs 3 days unknown 1-4 days up to 90 days
Barbiturates unknown unknown unknown 1-21 days unknown
Benzodiazepines unknown unknown unknown 1-42 days unknown
Cannabis (smoked--single use) 1-3 days 12-24 hrs unknown 1-3 days 0 to 90 days
Cannabis (smoked--regular use) 1-2 weeks 12-24 hrs unknown 15-50 days up to 90 days
Cannabis (oral--single use) 2-7 days unknown unknown unknown
Cocaine unknown 1 day unknown 4-5 days up to 90 days
Codeine/Morphine unknown 12-36 hrs unknown 2-4 days up to 90 days
Heroin unknown unknown unknown 2-4 days up to 90 days
MDMA (Ecstasy) 1 - 3 days 3 days unknown 1-5 days up to 90 days
Methamphetamine 1-3 days unknown unknown 3-5 days up to 90 days
PCP 1-3 days 3 days unknown 3-7 days up to 90 days
Just how long do you think the effects last?
Let's look at a single example:
Cannabis (smoked--single use) 1-3 days 12-24 hrs unknown 1-3 days 0 to 90 days
The intoxicating effect lasts approximately FOUR hours but is DETECTABLE for one to three DAYS. How the hell is that "well within the range" of current intoxication.
Are you ignorant? Or just being obtuse?
Ignorance is cured with a wee bit of knowledge. Stupidity is a lifelong affliction. I hope it is ignorance, but your statement implies otherwise.
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(Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 03 2015, @08:44AM
I wouldn't hire a programmer that randomly reverses implication arrows.