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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday July 11 2015, @04:40AM   Printer-friendly
from the titilation-saturation dept.

In the study of about 1,400 US youths, 47% of middle-school boys and 61% of high school boys agreed that women are treated as sex objects too often in games.

The findings, gathered by education consultant Rosalind Wiseman and games writer Ashley Burch, counter familiar assumptions that boys will voraciously consume media images of scantily clad women without a second thought.

For many years in the mainstream games industry, there has been an apparent assumption that the male teen demographic was the only one that mattered. Much of the time this meant beefy male protagonists (to identify with – or aspire to) and sexualised women (too gaze at or rescue).

The survey questions and methodology used are not disclosed in the article.


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  • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday July 12 2015, @05:00AM

    by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday July 12 2015, @05:00AM (#208069) Journal

    If you don't believe in SJWs I invite you to play SJW or Stormfront [reddit.com] where all they do is remove the target of the racist hatred and then YOU have to decide if it was written by an SJW or came from the Stormfront white supremacist website. If you get even 50% right? I will personally be amazed. Oh and BTW you want to read the most anti-Semitic Jew hatred on the web? Go to an SJW tumbler or Reddit sometime, they hate Jews so much even a member of the Aryan Brotherhyood would say "maybe you should tone it down a notch".

    If anybody doesn't know what the SJWs are? They are...well a cult of self important narcissist self hating white people that have an extreme left political agenda and don't think anybody else should have the right to speak. When I first encountered them after they attacked and tried to DOX a member of my family (who is gay BTW, but you are only a "real person" if you are one of a protected group AND believe as they do, otherwise you are a sock puppet unperson unworthy of rights, see the handy chart [kym-cdn.com] to see if you are a person or not) I thought "surely there is a misunderstanding, they are left wing, hell I'm a fourth generation socialist that has stood the protest lines against hatred, surely there is common ground here"....OH FUCK NO, the SJW is to the left what the Aryan brotherhood is to mainstream conservatism, they have tried to co-opt a few of the same terms but they are really about racism and hatred, the only real difference between them and Stormfront is the target and in the case of Jews there isn't even that.

    So yeah...nope, sorry, SJWs are a thing and they are rather nasty. Filled with self loathing and hatred of all things white, straight and male (which is ironic as the majority are straight white males) who say such wonderful inclusive things like all white men should commit suicide [examiner.com] (notice how he didn't include white women? That is because in their sick diseased minds all black men are mandingos that like to have sex with white women so white women should be given to black men as a prize for "historical racism") and white babies are born racist [eutimes.net] so its genetic and therefore they are without hope. I seem to remember a group saying that about another group several decades ago, ended up with a lot of death all around.

    This is why those of us who actually believed in the words of Dr King, that all of us are human beings who deserve to be judged by the content of our characters and not by some "ism" really do have to make a stand against these SJWs because we have already seen where "protected classes" and "acceptable targets" leads to, it leads to shit like the UK allowed a Pakistani pedo ring to go on for 16 years because they were only preying on white girls and they didn't want to "appear racist" by busting them [dailymail.co.uk]. Remember boys and girls reverse racism is STILL racism and is against everything the civil rights movement stood for. But this is why "SJW or Stormfront" is such a good game because to the SJW? Being racist is perfectly okay, it is merely a matter of which race is being victimized and which is being given special treatment that makes the difference. And of course you can't disagree with them, because even if you are one of their "protected classes" you are a sock puppet [youtube.com], literally a Stalin style "un-person" who has no rights, no opinion, because if you do not believe like them? You do not exist, your thoughts and feelings do not matter.

    So don't make light of this subject, these people are fanatics and frankly dangerous. I've been stalked for over a year, had threats leveled at members of my family, and honestly I got off lightly because I dared to fight back, I have talked to others that have gotten MUCH worse, including SWATing and death threats. This isn't about people believing in a cause, its straight up racist hate mongering and winning through intimidation, period the end

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Phoenix666 on Sunday July 12 2015, @09:07AM

    by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday July 12 2015, @09:07AM (#208093) Journal

    You know, I had never heard the term "SJW" used by anyone before seeing it used by you. It is not a term of pride carried by anyone on the Left, which I feel confident saying because I was a member of the Green Party in college and grad school. It is not a term that has currency in right-wing circles, at least, not on Drudge, which I read on a daily basis, or FreeRepublic or RedState which I read weekly, nor even on Stormfront, which I visit occasionally. That is to say, I feel reasonably conversant with the rhetoric and memes of the broad sweep of the political spectrum from Left to Right, and SJW has never once come up. "Libtard," "Demonrat," "Feminazi," "Republicon," "Moran (in reference to Tea Party members whose signs mispelled that word)," and "Republicrat," sure, but never "SJW." I dunno, maybe it's because I don't obsess enough about right-wing idee fixes and there are corners of the universe where that term of art is common?

    But it does seem you do obsess about it, and that list suggests you're on a mission to seek such extreme cases out to make them a thing. I mean, you have dug deep and with zeal. I recall the anti-rape contract [nytimes.com] Antioch college instituted in the 90's whereby a couple had to sign consent at each stage of sex from caressing to kissing to intercourse in order to avoid accusations of date rape and attendant penalties. I remember that feminist professor Catherine MacKinnon [wikiquote.org] who claimed all heterosexual sex was rape because of deeply engrained, institutional male coercion. I remember those cases because they are so extreme, so over the top. You know that I would surely have heard about them if such things were more common than you suggest because each side is so very ready to jump on any chance to demonize and dehumanize the other. Contrast, for example, how common snide comments are about Benghazi or fake birth certificates (for non-Americans, it's a right-wing assertion that Obama was not born in America and therefore not eligible to be President) or Manchurian-candidate style theories about Obama being brainwashed by a socialist professor.

    So your list is very special and unique and has been compiled not casually but with loving care. I applaud the effort. I admire the craft. But, brother, it is not representative. This construct of yours is your construct, not a thing. There is no secret army of SJWs plotting to oppress you. Why? Because they're not that organized. I was once unwilling audience to a 45 minute heated discussion about what kind of sweetener was the most appropriate to provide at coffee hour, FFS. It was an argument that was unresolved, BTW, with each calling the other "stooge" or "fascist." That is, they cannot agree on any blessed thing because that would involve compromise, and that would sully their purity of personal doctrine. Stringing together random utterances from demonstrable lunatics into a theme, a meme, and a movement the way you have takes serious, serious poetic license with reality my friend.

    Take a deep breath. There may be people out to get you, but it's not those people, the people you think. I would worry much more about those Free Software Foundation guys, who take real issue with your choice of operating system.

     

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    • (Score: 2) by Hairyfeet on Sunday July 12 2015, @12:45PM

      by Hairyfeet (75) <bassbeast1968NO@SPAMgmail.com> on Sunday July 12 2015, @12:45PM (#208125) Journal

      Uhhh you DO realize you are following their political narrative, yes? That because you personally who most likely run in a very limited number of like minded thinking circles have never heard of this term? Well then it must be a construct of "the other" with the other defined by whatever bogeyman you dislike, be it right wingers, racist, whatever. You are literally trying to turn somebody into a nice neat little label that you can dismiss out of hand because you do not wish to actually contemplate the possibility that some of the things you believe in may have been co-opted by a hate group.

      BTW I didn't "lovingly create" anything, I found those with all of 5 seconds in a Bing search, it is THAT easy to find example after example after example. If you would like to see so many more examples than I could possibly ever list (indeed if I were to simply fill this post with all his references I could write a 300+ page book on the subject without referencing the same individual twice) I would suggest you watch a few videos by Sargon of Akkad [youtube.com], perhaps his Gamergate and "This Week In Stupid" video series which is often filled with academia and public officials pushing positions that I seriously doubt you support, no matter how far left you claim to be.

      For the record I support universal healthcare for all, that every person has the right to clean water and good food, shelter and clothing, that all should be given equal rights and equal treatment no matter their race, sex, or orientation, does ANY of this sound even remotely "right wing" to you? I'm just not a fucking racist therefor I am against the "social justice" movement because at the end of the day at its core its about nothing BUT racism. Perhaps you should try visiting #notyourshield and read the posts from literally tens of thousands of every race,sex, and orientation that are sick and fucking tired of being treated as tokens by a group of mostly white middle class who keep telling them what they should and should not think. But whether you like it or not this group IS trying to co-opt the left wing politics, no different than how the fiscal conservatives were run out of the GOP by the moral majority and the neo-cons.

      If you are truly an intellectual left winger with an open mind? I urge you to do some actual research on the subject. Try going to some of the places they hang out like Reddit and Gamerghazi and actually try talking to them, one human being to another and see what you get. I have a feeling if you actually try talking to this group? You'll find that you find most, if not all, that they stand for quite vile. If you want to pretend its a "made up word" by the right wing? Then go talk to them yourself and I bet my last dollar that unless you are a white male filled with self loathing you'll find out that SJWs are VERY real and very nasty.

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      ACs are never seen so don't bother. Always ready to show SJWs for the racists they are.
      • (Score: 2) by Phoenix666 on Sunday July 12 2015, @05:18PM

        by Phoenix666 (552) on Sunday July 12 2015, @05:18PM (#208178) Journal

        That because you personally who most likely run in a very limited number of like minded thinking circles have never heard of this term?

        I guess you missed the part where I read right-wing blogs on a regular basis. No denizen of an echo chamber am I. "SJW" is an epithet that has no currency in any political discourse on any part of the spectrum of politically active people. "PC," as in, "politically correct," is probably the closest thing to your slur that people use. And there are many other slurs that the Left pastes on the Right and that the Right uses to smear the left, but "SJW" is not one that enjoys common use (in fact so rare that, as I said, I had never seen it before you wrote it).

        Sargon of Akkad

        So you found a random crazy on the Internet and have extrapolated that to legions of people? You're quite mistaken about the character and behavior of people who identify as Leftist. They're so incredibly afraid to give offense to anyone that they have endless discussions about the use of non-offensive pronouns, for Pete's sake. They invented political correctness and all its absurd extremes because they were trying to come up with new language that wouldn't offend anyone or make them feel oppressed or excluded.

        I found those with all of 5 seconds in a Bing search

        Yeah, and I can find endless results on "goatse" with the Google machine, because it works like that. But should we ascertain from that there's a billion-strong secret army of people who want to tempt you to perverse relations with ASCII art? (Well, maybe on Slashdot...)

        But whether you like it or not this group IS trying to co-opt the left wing politics

        So are the LaRouchies [larouchepac.com] and the guys who are always selling copies of the Socialist Worker Weekly [socialistworker.org] at every. Single. Protest. Or the Free Mumia! people. So are the Tea Party guys trying to co-opt the Republican party, or the libertarians, or the Moral Majority. That you don't know how normal that is suggests you may not have had much first-hand experience with political activism, such that you go to organizing meetings or rallies or canvass or poll watch or any of that sort of thing.

        you'll find out that SJWs are VERY real and very nasty.

        Yes, champions of PC can be nasty. All you would have to do to experience that is to walk into the Park Slope Food Co-op and ask for a good cut of veal. Or suggest to a Free Palestine! advocate that all Jews are not evil incarnate. There are forms of intolerance on the Left, too, just as there are on the Right. Which proves what?

        I urge you to do some actual research on the subject.

        Does a Master's in Social Science from the University of Chicago on top of a Bachelor's in Economics from selfsame place count? 25 years' of in-the-trenches activism? Significant living, working, and studying abroad in East Asia and Europe? Dunno, I feel pretty secure in the amount of actual research under my belt. We used math and everything, too.

        You do often have a bee in your bonnet, and I can respect that because I do too on many subjects. Many of us here do. But is there no value to you in having colleagues wave at you and say, hey man, I think you might not realize you've got the blinders on a little?

        There is no SJW army out to get you. They couldn't even get so far as to agree on what variety of cruelty-free stationery to write a sternly worded, carefully equivocated message on, much less consent to use UPS to deliver it to you before UPS has fully recognized unionized labor.

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        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2015, @03:21AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Monday July 13 2015, @03:21AM (#208325)

          From what I gather, aside from just being a general, meaningless attack slur for anyone who disagrees with the attacker about anything, "SJW" has an alternate definition - the one the people who use it insist is the only definition, but never with an actual definition but only with "examples" that they use to "prove" that an "army" of "SJW"s are out to get them - that seems to mean "bigoted against whites/males/heterosexuals". So basically anyone who uses the term is extremely upset and lashing out at everyone they can because they've recently found out what literally everyone in the world except whites/males/heterosexuals have known for centuries, that humans are mean, prejudiced, bigoted, spiteful creatures, and it fucking sucks to have all that hate and bigotry directed at you.