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posted by janrinok on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:01PM   Printer-friendly
from the I'm-not-sure-that-they-know dept.

Dell contradicts Microsoft, says Windows 10 will be installed on PCs starting July 29. It turns out Windows 10 will be installed on PCs from four major manufacturers.

Dell Inc. CEO Michael Dell said on Twitter that he expects Windows 10 to ship on new Dell PCs on July 29, contradicting a statement made yesterday by Microsoft.

Microsoft, which is still testing the highly anticipated operating system, said consumers would have to work with their local retailers to upgrade to Windows 10 after purchasing their new devices, in a blog post.

This means that all new units, such as the Dell XPS 15, on which Microsoft demoed Windows 10 during Computex, would not come with Windows 10 preinstalled, but rather users would have to upgrade at retail locations.

After some confusion regarding what was actually going to happen, Microsoft announced:

[...] Dell, HP, Lenovo, and Acer will begin shipping PCs on July 29 with Windows 10 preinstalled, Microsoft told Bloomberg.

Yusuf Mehdi, Vice President of Windows and Device Marketing, was mistaken when he wrote in a blog post that PCs shipping on July 29 would not have the new operating system preinstalled.


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  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:13PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:13PM (#209324)

    They are being way too pushy with this windows 10 thing. I am afraid one day I will turn on my windows 7 machine and it will be "upgraded" to windows 10 or some semi-functioning purgatory state. I tried to get rid of the "offer" and it keeps coming back under different names. Is the only option to turn off windows update? That seems like a bad idea too.

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  • (Score: 4, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:22PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:22PM (#209330)

    There's also the option to switch to Linux. That way you'll never again be prompted to update to a newer Windows version. ;-)

    • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:27PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:27PM (#209334)

      Yes, I may have to do that. Based on previous experience, I am trying to avoid this because I do not want to spend endless hours tinkering to get a printer to work, etc. But Microsoft appears to be crossing a threshold and it is causing me undue stress.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by sudo rm -rf on Wednesday July 15 2015, @01:53PM

        by sudo rm -rf (2357) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @01:53PM (#209373) Journal

        If you consider switching, here [soylentnews.org] a lot of different opinions and reasons what distro to use for what.

      • (Score: 3, Informative) by Freeman on Wednesday July 15 2015, @03:25PM

        by Freeman (732) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @03:25PM (#209413) Journal

        Linux continues to get better as time goes by. You will still have some issue with the latest hardware having troubles working, but hardware that's a couple of years old has much better support. Instead of buying the most recent printer, try buying a printer that's been around a few years. That way it's much more likely to be supported in Linux. Or you could do a bit of research and get a printer that's supported. http://www.openprinting.org/printers/ [openprinting.org]

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        • (Score: 2, Informative) by jummama on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:11PM

          by jummama (3969) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:11PM (#209485)

          And buy from Brother.

      • (Score: 2) by DeathMonkey on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:05PM

        by DeathMonkey (1380) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:05PM (#209482) Journal

        Well, based on previous experience, if you decide to stay put 10 is probably the "good" version.

        • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:35PM

          by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:35PM (#209495)

          I doubt that.

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:24PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:24PM (#209333)

    Is the only option to turn off windows update? That seems like a bad idea too.

    seems like a good idea to me. just set windows update to manual

  • (Score: 1, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:50PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:50PM (#209343)

    Set Windows Update to check for, but not download updates.

    Then, I'm afraid, that you'll have to read the descriptions of the updates. At that point, you can choose what to install and what to hide.

    If you can't make the effort to know what is happening on your box then you don't get to complain about decisions that other people make for you.

    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:55PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @12:55PM (#209347)

      Yes, I have this set up although I apparently have not been vigilant enough. I think even if I turn off all windows updates they may still "try something". So I need to go find all of the preparatory updates and also get rid of those.

      • (Score: 2) by tangomargarine on Wednesday July 15 2015, @08:21PM

        by tangomargarine (667) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @08:21PM (#209559)

        Nuke it from orbit--er, I mean unplug your Ethernet cable the day it rolls out and look up on your phone or something what happens to other people.

        Wireless? What's that? Not everybody has a smartphone? Bah! ;)

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    • (Score: 5, Informative) by tibman on Wednesday July 15 2015, @02:46PM

      by tibman (134) Subscriber Badge on Wednesday July 15 2015, @02:46PM (#209397)

      Most of the descriptions are terrible though and don't explain what exactly they are changing or why.

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      • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Wednesday July 15 2015, @04:51PM

        by Nerdfest (80) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @04:51PM (#209453)

        That's because having people see "installing NSA key logger" would be bad for business.

  • (Score: 2) by Gaaark on Wednesday July 15 2015, @04:40PM

    by Gaaark (41) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @04:40PM (#209446) Journal

    It sounds to me like they are pushing an unfinished product as well: maybe if it is unfinished/glitchy/garbage, people will sit up and start thinking and start tossing it for something else.

    I'm dreaming, right? :/

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  • (Score: 2) by Nerdfest on Wednesday July 15 2015, @04:49PM

    by Nerdfest (80) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @04:49PM (#209451)

    some semi-functioning purgatory state

    It's called "Windows Vista". Relax, it's not like you're going to be summoning a demon if you say its name.

    • (Score: 1) by AnonymousCowardNoMore on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:24PM

      by AnonymousCowardNoMore (5416) on Wednesday July 15 2015, @06:24PM (#209492)

      It's called "Windows Vista". Relax, it's not like you're going to be summoning a demon if you say its name.

      That only happens if you say it three times.

      • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @10:27PM

        by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday July 15 2015, @10:27PM (#209651)

        It's called "Windows Vista". Relax, it's not like you're going to be summoning a demon if you say its name.

        That only happens if you say it three times.

        You just said it again! Careful, that's twice, and if someone says "Windows Vista" again. . . . oh, merde . . . . .

        Windows V + Windows V = Windows X The Math of Evil!