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posted by takyon on Friday July 31 2015, @11:30AM   Printer-friendly
from the lead-from-behind dept.

Upgrades of Windows 10 reset the default browser to Microsoft's new Edge browser, and this has caused Mozilla CEO Chris Beard to issue an open letter to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella:

[T]he update experience appears to have been designed to throw away the choice your customers have made about the Internet experience they want, and replace it with the Internet experience Microsoft wants them to have.

[...] We appreciate that it's still technically possible to preserve people's previous settings and defaults, but the design of the whole upgrade experience and the default settings APIs have been changed to make this less obvious and more difficult. It now takes more than twice the number of mouse clicks, scrolling through content and some technical sophistication for people to reassert the choices they had previously made in earlier versions of Windows. It's confusing, hard to navigate and easy to get lost.

Firefox's market share continues to drop by varying degrees according to analysis by Martin Brinkmann of ghacks.net.

takyon: Microsoft reports that 14 million users took the plunge and installed Windows 10 yesterday. Microsoft has stated it wants Windows 10 on 1 billion devices within the next 3 years.


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  • (Score: 3, Touché) by AnonymousCowardNoMore on Friday July 31 2015, @03:35PM

    by AnonymousCowardNoMore (5416) on Friday July 31 2015, @03:35PM (#216343)

    Stopped reading right here. Could you please argue without a witch hunt of your own?

    How'd you know about the witch hunt, then? :)

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  • (Score: 1) by timbojones on Friday July 31 2015, @05:57PM

    by timbojones (5442) on Friday July 31 2015, @05:57PM (#216423)

    Because use of the term SJW intrinsically implies a witch hunt, no additional context required.

    • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday July 31 2015, @07:48PM

      by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday July 31 2015, @07:48PM (#216508) Journal

      Here's what the term SJW means to me. It means a bigoted hypocrite who makes accusations of sexism and racism that themselves are rooted in sexism and racism. That implies that we can determine whether somebody is engaging in acts that an SJW would. SJWs also go about things proactively, meaning they are the ones on the crusade, although we seem to have a reactionary knee-jerk opposito-SJW element as well on a crusade of their own. Witch hunt vs. witch hunt!

      So, on the other board a popular riposte to somebody accusing somebody else of being an SJW was to ask, “Was Dr. Martian Luther King, Jr. an SJW?” (or somesuch implying the parent poster is a racist). Well, was he an SJW? Did he make accusations of racism against whites for no other reason than they were white? I don't think so (unless you would prove me wrong, then we can revise the definition I'm using here). No, he wanted people of all skin colors to be equal. Therefore, Dr. Martian Luther King, Jr. was not, in fact, an SJW.

      Granted, the way SJW was used further up the thread does not match my definition and more falls under the opposito-SJW camp. What was his name, Brendan Eich? Ok, it was. To review, in order for Brendan Eich's detractors to be SJWs would require that they make a bigoted accusation, such as, for example, Brendan Eich is heterosexual and therefore homophobic because all heterosexuals are homophobic. (Another form is to accuse a heterosexual individual of having heterosexual privilege. One may observe that heterosexual privilege does exist, but it's a logical contortion to blame an individual, as individuals gain their various gender/race/sexual orientation/etc privileges from the attitudes of others, not their own attitudes.)

      I didn't follow the drama, so you'll need to help me out and tell me if that's the case.

      I did, however, switch away from Firefox, but only because of the prospect that it might have included revenue-generating ads in the near future. I have no problem using a product a homophobe was involved in creating, as long as he does not obtain financial gain and/or is not furthering homophobic legislation or activism (preaching, etc). In hindsight, however, I would have eventually switched away from Firefox sooner or later because Chrome's developer tools are superior and Midori is fast, lightweight, and is finally becoming somewhat mature.

      Now, the term SJW does not sit completely well with me either, because it's too confusing and vague (hence the Dr. King thing). The term SJB has been offered (social justice bully) which might work, but it would need a lot more usage in the written out form before it may become a recognizable acronym.

      Therefore, we should deprecate the term SJW in favor of more precise terms like hypocrite, sexist, racist, bigot, gender lunatic, or race lunatic.

      • (Score: 2) by GungnirSniper on Friday July 31 2015, @10:29PM

        by GungnirSniper (1671) on Friday July 31 2015, @10:29PM (#216556) Journal

        A Social Justice Warrior feigns outrage to gain social standing. Often their intolerance of the offender is more hateful and damaging than the originating action or comment.

        To go back to the point of this thread, no, I don't believe any sizable number of users dropped Mozilla Firefox because of Brendan Eich's politics nor started using it when he left.

        • (Score: 2) by kurenai.tsubasa on Friday July 31 2015, @10:55PM

          by kurenai.tsubasa (5227) on Friday July 31 2015, @10:55PM (#216561) Journal

          Hmm… demagogue?

          1: a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power

          2: a leader championing the cause of the common people in ancient times

          Hard to call the hordes of SJWs on Twitter leaders. Ok, let's check etymology to see if we can hack this word.

          Greek dēmagōgos, from dēmos people (perhaps akin to Greek daiesthai to divide) + agōgos leading, from agein to lead.

          Ah, crap, it's straight from Greek. I was hoping there'd be a Latin link in there somewhere, and I seem to have misplaced my copy of the OED to double-check Merriam-Webster's version above. I'm out of my depth here.

          I'll think about it some more. Oh, and I left out SIW/SIJW (Social (Injustice|InJustice) Warrior) as one of the proposed alternatives so adding it here to be thorough. (I'm pretty sure SIW ⇒ SJW, ¬(SIW ⇒ opposito-SJW), but please correct if I need to move the ¬ over to the former from the latter.)