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posted by takyon on Monday August 03 2015, @05:41PM   Printer-friendly
from the powerful-controlled-computing dept.

In the name of national security, China is restricting export of certain drones and computers:

From August 15, manufacturers of certain powerful drones and computers will have to give technical details to the authorities to obtain a licence prior to export, Xinhua news agency says.

[...] In the first five months of 2015, China exported some 160,000 civilian drones, a jump of 70 per cent year-on-year, worth more than $120 million, the official China Daily newspaper reported in July.

[...] The tightening of regulations comes two weeks after an incident in disputed Kashmir in which the Pakistani army claimed to have shot down an Indian "spy drone", reportedly Chinese-made.

China is also likely tightening controls on exports of powerful computers as it looks to maintain its edge in the global supercomputer battle long dominated by US-Japanese rivalry.

Starting August 15th, drone and supercomputer manufacturers will have to present technical details to the authorities in order to get a license to export.

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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 03 2015, @07:23PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 03 2015, @07:23PM (#217518)

    "In fact, many such discoveries are paid by govt grants to universities in US. And all NASA discoveries are also done by public funding.

    Care to think how come the former USSR/current Russia managed to have better rocket engines than USofA for more than 30 years now?"

    and where does that money come from? Taxpayers. The private market. The private market supports the government, if it weren't for people that work to keep government employees paid (and to provide them with goods and services for the money they are paid with) the government couldn't exist. So having a strong private sector by allowing exports serves two purposes: it helps support advancements within the private sector and it helps the private sector support government functions.

  • (Score: 2) by c0lo on Monday August 03 2015, @07:38PM

    by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 03 2015, @07:38PM (#217527) Journal

    and where does that money come from? Taxpayers. The private market.

    Private market in USSR? Do you think the taxes on (subsistence) farmers market* funded - in the '60-ies - the most powerful rocket engine [wikipedia.org]?

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    * I guarantee you, the only somehow private markets of those times were the farmers' markets

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    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 03 2015, @08:00PM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 03 2015, @08:00PM (#217545)

      So, what, do you advocate for a self sufficient government? Are you advocating for communism (and I know China is communist)?

      and, yes, Russia did make advancements. As have many other countries. It is not being argued that being isolationist will result in no advancements just that more advancement can be achieved when a country receives more revenue to invest back into making them.

      If a government really wants to invest into a specific technology (at the expense of other investments) they can direct resources into developing it. No argument there. But with more revenue the government can invest more into that same technology and it can also make investments into other technologies. Whether it's the government generating the revenue through exportation or whether it's the private sector; more revenue equals more money a country has to invest back into making even more advancements. and the country that's ahead of the curve is most qualified to receive that money and to invest back into pushing the curve forward even more. but if it chooses not to then it will be more impoverished and it (its people) will focus more of its resources on overcoming poverty and will have less resources for advancement allowing for other countries to make investments into advancements.

      • (Score: 3, Insightful) by c0lo on Monday August 03 2015, @10:06PM

        by c0lo (156) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 03 2015, @10:06PM (#217619) Journal

        So, what, do you advocate for a self sufficient government? Are you advocating for communism (and I know China is communist)?

        I don't advocate for anything, just pointed out that other solutions for "technical dominant countries" existed and still exists. Each one with its own pitfalls and advantages.

        If you set forward the idea that "private initiative for technical dominance is the best approach for a nation", then I'll ask you to demonstrate.
        Mind you, private initiative and "national interest, including technical dominance on a country base" are diverging lately, if not already at conflict - globalisation and whatnot. So thread carefully in your argumentation.

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