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posted by mrcoolbp on Monday August 10 2015, @10:00AM   Printer-friendly
from the who-you-gonna-call-now dept.

As you are all aware, we are in the middle of the dog days of summer. We get it, people are busy with work, family, and a plethora of other things. Some of our (volunteer) staff need a break too, so we are looking for a few good people, be they man, woman, child, animal, mineral or vegetable, to join our ranks and help spread the workload.

There are a number of ways to help out:

  • Join us on our webchat IRC or, if you are new to IRC (I was only a year ago), check here for some tips on getting connected.
  • Email mrcoolbp (or if you are sick of that guy any other staff member like janrinok will do; "nickname@soylentnews.org" works for any of us)
  • Read the wiki page on "Getting Involved"

One thing that this site needs more than anything else to thrive is submissions.

We greatly appreciate all of our submitters. The submission queue is the lifeblood of SoylentNews, when it is empty, there is nothing to read, learn from, and argue about.

Takyon, Hugh Pickens, Phoenix666, and Arthur T. Knackerbracket come immediately to mind as people that we see submissions from a lot, and they present great submissions. However, consider that just one article a week from 25% of our registered users would give us more material than we can use, and yield a far greater variety of viewpoints, opinions, and stories. When you find something interesting, submit a story. Take a quick peek at our Submission Guidelines for some insight into best practices.

"But what do I submit?". Check out the RSSbot logs. Scroll down to 'today' and check out the links. This bot simply posts stories from various relevant sources in real-time by scraping RSS feeds (you can refresh the page and get more up-to-date stories).

A well crafted summary is preferred, but not an absolute necessity. Your summary doesn't have to be elaborate. It could be a copy/paste of the first paragraph or two from the article, but please, be sure to give us the link where you are getting the material.

I can only speak for myself, but I find the time spent working on SoylentNews and hanging around on IRC generally pretty relaxing. It is fun for me, and I appreciate that the community is an interesting place with people from many places, industries, and walks of life. It is a place where I come to learn, and read things I would otherwise never see.

Thanks to you all for helping build a great community, and we hope to see many new faces over the coming months.

--cmn32480


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  • (Score: 5, Informative) by janrinok on Monday August 10 2015, @01:33PM

    by janrinok (52) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 10 2015, @01:33PM (#220666) Journal

    We are currently looking at alternative ways at providing feed back. The one that I prefer is simply a another page showing rejected submissions with a comment alongside explaining why they were rejected. Each rejected submission along with its comments from the editors will remain on the page for a period of time, say 3 days, and then simply be removed. It seems to my (non-site-programmer) perspective the easiest to implement. It doesn't require much more than another web page - and we serve plenty of those each day. The downsides are that it is essentially one-way communication, but that is better than we have a present. It is also open to the gaze of the whole community, and that alone might discourage some from making a submission for fear of 'public' rejection.

    As for the most common reasons for rejection, I will say the following from my own personal viewpoint.

    • We want items of news of specific interest to our community - we don't want or need a repeat of any nation's politics, elections, or any of the many other stories that fill the TV and newspapers. There are a few exceptions to this but these usually have a technical, scientific or specific social interest to the wider community. We especially like items of any of the sciences, mathematics, technology, and related topics - and we usually give these subjects the widest of interpretation to ensure that stories qualify.
    • The biggest cause of rejection is being a little bit too late. For example, a recent story had 4 submissions, all of which arrived within an hour or two of each other. The first one arrived and was processed, and was scheduled to run later that day. None of the subsequent submissions added anything new to the first and so they were of no additional use to us. They were rejected simply because we already had the story. It was clearly viewable in the pending stories (on the submissions page) yet more submissions came in. There is no criticism intended here - it is just the way things go. Had any of the later submissions contained an interesting twist or an alternative point of view, we could have merged them together with the already prepared story. Had they all arrived at about the same time, each submitter would have been acknowledged and given credit for the submission.
    • Although we will accept submissions that require significant editorial work before they can be used, it is simply human-nature that a well-written story that requires minimal effort on our part will probably hit the front page before one that needs a hour or more of our time. You each know what you want to read and how you like to see it presented - and in an ideal world, that is what we would like each submission to look like. I realise that this aspiration is not always possible, but any work in preparing the submission - rather than just providing a link and a one liner saying 'this looks good' - is most welcome.

    These are my personal views, I suspect other editors share most of them but will be able to add more suggestions as this discussion develops. The summer/holiday period is always a difficult one. Colleges and universities are empty. People are taking their holidays/vacations. Many are out making the most of some free time and spending time with families and friends. But, as I am sure you all realise, without the submissions we haven't got a site, or at least we haven't got a site that is any different from others on the 'net.

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  • (Score: 3, Interesting) by inertnet on Monday August 10 2015, @01:51PM

    by inertnet (4071) on Monday August 10 2015, @01:51PM (#220671) Journal

    The downsides are that it is essentially one-way communication

    That would be good enough for me. Besides, you don't want to create a discussion platform where you have to keep spending your time explaining back and forth why decisions about submissions were made. That could chase moderators away.

    • (Score: 2) by inertnet on Monday August 10 2015, @02:54PM

      by inertnet (4071) on Monday August 10 2015, @02:54PM (#220705) Journal

      moderators

      Oops, I meant editors.

    • (Score: 2) by mrcoolbp on Monday August 10 2015, @03:25PM

      by mrcoolbp (68) <mrcoolbp@soylentnews.org> on Monday August 10 2015, @03:25PM (#220720) Homepage

      The downsides are that it is essentially one-way communication

      That would be good enough for me. Besides, you don't want to create a discussion platform where you have to keep spending your time explaining back and forth why decisions about submissions were made...

      Yes, I have seen this happen.

      --
      (Score:1^½, Radical)
  • (Score: 1, Interesting) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @02:09PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @02:09PM (#220684)

    What if the editors just had a shared user account called "Rejected_Submissions" and posted them to its Journal page?

  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @02:59PM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @02:59PM (#220708)

    We are currently looking at alternative ways at providing feed back. The one that I prefer is simply a another page showing rejected submissions with a comment alongside explaining why they were rejected. Each rejected submission along with its comments from the editors will remain on the page for a period of time, say 3 days, and then simply be removed.

    That sounds like a very good plan, with the exception of the 3 day limit. That's IMHO too short.