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posted by cmn32480 on Saturday August 08 2015, @05:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the give-thanks-to-those-who-speak-out-for-freedom dept.

A gang armed with machetes has hacked a secular blogger to death at his home in Dhaka in the fourth such murder in Bangladesh since the start of the year, an activist group and police have said.

Niloy Chatterjee, who used the pen-name Niloy Neel, was murdered on Friday after the men broke into his flat in the capital's Goran neighbourhood, according to the Bangladesh Blogger and Activist Network, which was alerted to the attack by a witness.

"They entered his room in the fifth floor and shoved his friend aside and then hacked him to death. He was a listed target of the Islamist militants," the network's head Imran H Sarker, told the AFP news agency.

Chatterjee, 40, was a critic of religious extremism that led to bombings in mosques and the killing of numerous civilians, Sarker said.

First found here: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/08/fourth-secular-bangladesh-blogger-hacked-death-150807102408712.html
Search led to these sites: http://www.itv.com/news/2015-08-07/machete-wielding-gang-kill-blogger-in-his-home/
http://www.firstpost.com/world/dhakas-secular-claims-get-increasingly-blood-soaked-as-another-bangladeshi-blogger-is-killed-2383420.html
http://www.nirapadnews.com/english/2015/08/07/news-id:29841/


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  • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @12:26AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @12:26AM (#220061)

    > No? Yet there is no condition conceivably more authoritarian than the ones described by the major religions.

    That's the same bullshit as the racists who equate the most despicable things any black person has done with the average black person. Extremist interpretations do not define a religion any more than the shore defines the ocean.

    Guys like you prove those religious assholes right when they say "athiesm is a religion" - just like those religious assholes you are all about telling other people how to live their lives.

  • (Score: 2) by TrumpetPower! on Sunday August 09 2015, @12:49AM

    by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Sunday August 09 2015, @12:49AM (#220069) Homepage

    Last I checked, every single flavor of Christianity agrees that there exists a confusingly-eponymous god named, "God," who, regardless of his relationship of the other gods in the pantheon, is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent. They also agree that God and / or Jesus set forth various laws which must be followed upon pain of an eternity in Hell.

    If that's not the ultimate form of totalitarianism, then Popes don't shit in the woods when nobody's listening.

    Granted, there's practically no agreement on what those laws are and which will and won't get you sent to the gulag, as well as much disagreement about just how nasty things really are in Guantanamo. But all are in full agreement that the Dear Leader loves everybody, and only does bad things to people in sorrow and for their own good. Exactly as we are told is the case about every dictator anywhere ever.

    Now, if you can identify anything in there that I got factually incorrect, I'm all ears. Do Christians reject God's omnipotence, omniscience, or omnipresence? Do they claim that Hell actually isn't Jesus's personal prison? Are these facts inconsistent with totalitarianism? Does Big Brother not watch and love you?

    "Good luck with that," as the saying goes.

    b&

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    All but God can prove this sentence true.
    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:11AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:11AM (#220075)

      > They also agree that God and / or Jesus set forth various laws which must be followed upon pain of an eternity in Hell.

      Then you haven't been paying attention.
      Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Unitarians, Christian Gnostics - none believe in an eternity in hell, some don't even believe in a hell at all.

      Jews and Sufis don't believe in eternal punishment either. And that's just the abrahamic religions.

      Hindus don't do eternal punishment, after all they believe in reincarnation.

      > "Good luck with that," as the saying goes.

      Fuck luck. Unlike you, I take knowledge over ignorant faith.

      • (Score: 1, Troll) by TrumpetPower! on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:26AM

        by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:26AM (#220085) Homepage

        Ah -- a liar for Jesus (and others). Business as usual.

        Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, Unitarians, Christian Gnostics - none believe in an eternity in hell, some don't even believe in a hell at all.

        ORLY? Let's see what the official LDS Web site has to say about that.

        HELL [lds.org]

        Latter-day revelation speaks of hell in at least two senses. [...] Second, it is the permanent location of those who are not redeemed by the atonement of Jesus Christ. In this sense, hell is permanent. It is for those who are found “filthy still” (D&C 88:35, 102). This is the place where Satan, his angels, and the sons of perdition—those who have denied the Son after the Father has revealed him—will dwell eternally (D&C 76:43–46).

        I've neither the time nor patience to play whack-a-mole with the rest -- especially since Unitarians are largely non-Christian and Gnostics largely non-existent.

        b&

        --
        All but God can prove this sentence true.
        • (Score: 1, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:36AM

          by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:36AM (#220088)

          How convenient of you to elide the part that proves you wrong. Here, I'll fill in those ellipses:

          First, it is the temporary abode in the spirit world for those who were disobedient in mortality.

          That's all the matters with respect to how you live your life.

          The second version of hell that you focused on is all about decisions you make after death. Big deal.

          > I've neither the time nor patience to play whack-a-mole with the rest

          When proven wrong, lie and then claim you don't have time to face the truth. Hello mr trump!

          • (Score: 1, Troll) by TrumpetPower! on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:48AM

            by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:48AM (#220093) Homepage

            Let me get this straight.

            Morons believe in an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent god who sends his enemies to Hell for all eternity, but I mischaracterized that as the ultimate form of totalitarianism because it's only those who keep giving the Moronic god the finger after death who're infinitely tortured?

            And you expect people to take you seriously about any of this...how, exactly? Do you also make up similar fantasies about how War Trek is just totally possible because nanochhlorites are only super-relativistic at more than seven parsecs?

            This is exactly what I meant by whack-a-mole. Next thing, you're going to say that Bigfoot is Jesus and Bigfoot isn't everywhere so he's not omnipresent so stalecheckers, athiest1!1

            Find me a Christianity that represents more than single-digit percentages that's not fundamentally totalitarian and we'll talk. Until then, grow the fuck up already.

            b&

            --
            All but God can prove this sentence true.
            • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:51AM

              by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:51AM (#220094)

              > but I mischaracterized that as the ultimate form of totalitarianism because it's only those who keep giving the Moronic god the finger after death who're infinitely tortured?

              Let me get this straight. You don't believe in an afterlife, but rules about what other people do in their afterlife qualifies as totalitarianism in actual life.
              So, you are an athiest who believes in the mormon afterlife. lol.

              • (Score: 2, Touché) by TrumpetPower! on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:56AM

                by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Sunday August 09 2015, @01:56AM (#220097) Homepage

                Either your cluelessness is epic or your apologetics are epically sorry.

                I'm not stupid enough to think that Darth Vader is real, either; yet I challenge you do describe his Empire without equating it to totalitarianism.

                Now, got any rejoinders that rise above the level of, "HA! So if you don't think Santa is real, then who do you think gave you that bicycle you're riding!?"

                b&

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                All but God can prove this sentence true.
                • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @02:44AM

                  by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @02:44AM (#220116)

                  Why do you keep trying to equate actions in a person's afterlife with actions in a person's mortal life? Who the fuck cares what mormons do after they are dead?

                  Really, what is wrong with you that fail at such an utterly simple question of logic?

                  Well, I know the answer to that - you are one of those idiots who has made antitheism his faith and just like all the other religious nutjobs, when faced with a contradiction between your faith and logic you can't reconcile it and so you just spew bullshit instead of owning up to it.

                  And then there is the larger problem with your anti-theism in that all your arguments are based on arguing about religions with "more than single-digit percentages" which implicitly says you are OK with religions that only have single-digit percentages. In which case, you are neither really an anti-theist nor an atheist at all. You are just a anti-big-religionist.

                  • (Score: 2) by TrumpetPower! on Sunday August 09 2015, @03:00AM

                    by TrumpetPower! (590) <ben@trumpetpower.com> on Sunday August 09 2015, @03:00AM (#220121) Homepage

                    What the fuck is worng with you that you ignore the whole all-powerful, all-knowing, all-present bit plus the ultimate gulag for dissidents and are instead hyper-focussed on the bit of the myth that says you get killed before you're zombified to be sent to the gulag?

                    I get it. You're a Moron, and you really don't want people pointing out that Moronism is a fantasy about the ultimate tyranny. You really do love Big Brother because Big Brother loves you and, even if you didn't love him, Room 101 just isn't your style.

                    But do you really think you're making your elders happy by making your fantasy look so spectacularly Moronic? Don't you realize that, every time you post that your Hell doesn't have all that much crunchy frog in it, you're reminding everybody of just how awesomely purely evil your gods are to have even thought of such a thing in the first place, even if they save it only for the most special of special cases?

                    b&

                    --
                    All but God can prove this sentence true.
                    • (Score: 0) by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @03:37AM

                      by Anonymous Coward on Sunday August 09 2015, @03:37AM (#220135)

                      What the fuck is worng with you that you ignore the whole all-powerful, all-knowing, all-present bit plus the ultimate gulag for dissidents and are instead hyper-focussed on the bit of the myth that says you get killed before you're zombified to be sent to the gulag?

                      I am having a hell of time parsing that. So I am just going to restate your original argument and my critique:

                      You: Religion is totalitarian because you have to follow rules while you are alive or face eternal punishment after death.
                      Me: Nope. Lots of religions don't work that way. For example, mormons can do whatever they want while they are alive and not face eternal punishment.

                      > I get it. You're a Moron,

                      What? You dumbfuck. Of course you think I am religionist, in your simplistic world view, anyone who isn't a fucking raving anthithiest must be a brainwashed religionist. I was born an atheist and have always been an atheist. Like most real atheists, I know more about religion than religionists. [pewforum.org] Your ignorance of religion just goes to show that you are a religionist too, you just are too deep into your faith to even realize it is a faith.