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posted by CoolHand on Sunday August 09 2015, @08:57PM   Printer-friendly
from the whatever-it-takes dept.

three years ago, Stan Lyons, owner of Malamalama Farm in Honaunau, looked over his devastated coffee crop, lost to the cherry borer beetle, and asked himself, "What's next? I've got no water and no soil."

http://westhawaiitoday.com/news/local-news/no-water-no-soil-no-problem-aquaponics-provides-fresh-organic-produce

Seen the above the other day , in comments on the New Jersey article someone brought up Aquaponics .

Aquaponics is a specific arena of organic farming that is based on fish ponds and an enclosed hydro-circulation system. The foundation of Lyons' entire operation is a 5-by-10-foot fish pond that is 5 feet deep and built in cement and under cover. All the water for the system is from catchment, and fueled by 20 or so tilapia and koi that glide past in blends of orange, white and black. "In a true aquaponic system, you're supposed to eat the fish too," Lyons explained. "But we can't do that. These guys are our pets." In a typical aquaculture system, the pond water generates waste product from the fish. Aquaponics puts that by-product to work. Leading away by gravity feed from the pond, the water flows into a filter tank that divides the solid material and the water. That is the first stage of its nutrient breakdown. The bottom of the filter tank has a valve that allows the solid material to be collected. "This is incredible organic fertilizer. I put it directly on my raised beds and the results are phenomenal," Lyons added.


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  • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Monday August 10 2015, @01:35AM

    by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Monday August 10 2015, @01:35AM (#220505)

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    Show me some INORGANIC produce.

    It's ALL fucking organic.

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  • (Score: 2, Touché) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @01:43AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @01:43AM (#220506)
    Why don't you take it with a pinch of salt.
  • (Score: 2, Insightful) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @01:54AM

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @01:54AM (#220508)

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.
    Show me some INORGANIC produce.
    It's ALL fucking organic.

    Right-o Boy-o! Words can only have one meaning. Ever.
    Lyons is totally the stupid, stupid, stupid one here.

    • (Score: 3, Insightful) by Pslytely Psycho on Monday August 10 2015, @03:11AM

      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Monday August 10 2015, @03:11AM (#220533)

      Of course not, but the usage of organic in this way is as stupid as using the term quantum sale to describe a large sale. (popular back in the late 80's and early 90's)
      We all have pet peeves. All of them inconsequential. This is mine.

      Still looking for that inorganic carrot.

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  • (Score: 2) by hendrikboom on Monday August 10 2015, @02:50AM

    by hendrikboom (1125) Subscriber Badge on Monday August 10 2015, @02:50AM (#220521) Homepage Journal

    If it's fucking, it's probably organic.

    • (Score: 3, Informative) by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @03:33AM

      by Anonymous Coward on Monday August 10 2015, @03:33AM (#220536)

      "Organic" has specific regulatory meanings. Here's the USA version,
            http://www.ams.usda.gov/services/organic-certification/faq-becoming-certified [usda.gov]

      From the faq:

      Is There a Transition Period?
      Yes. Any land used to produce raw organic commodities must not have had prohibited substances applied to it for the past three years. Until the full 36-month transition period is met, you may not:
        - Sell, label, or represent the product as “organic”
        - Use the USDA organic or certifying agent’s seal

      Here is a timeline for anyone interested in a short history lesson,
            http://www.omorganics.org/page.php?pageid=82 [omorganics.org]

      1940's to 1950's
      A loose network of farmers, including J.I. Rodale, Ehrnefried Pfeiffer of Kemberton Farm School, and Paul Keene of Walnut Acres Farms, shunned chemical agriculture by farming organically and writing about their experiences.

      My parents bought organic food from Walnut Acres starting around 1960 up until the original farm closed--it was wonderful food. "You are what you eat!"

  • (Score: 3, Informative) by Mr Big in the Pants on Monday August 10 2015, @06:08AM

    by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Monday August 10 2015, @06:08AM (#220561)

    The term, quite obviously, refers to the method of producing the item as opposed to the item itself. You are being willfully ignorant on this matter.

    No it does not matter whether you or anyone else value this distinction: the distinction is still valid. (NB: I don't give a shit about organic produce)

    BTW: Aquaponics is typically (depending on implementation - but most are) a subset of/related to permaculture and has been around for many years and is nothing new in of itself.

    The article is interesting but not the sort of groundbreaking news one would expect...

    • (Score: 2) by Pslytely Psycho on Monday August 10 2015, @08:49AM

      by Pslytely Psycho (1218) on Monday August 10 2015, @08:49AM (#220594)

      Not willfully ignorant, as I am fully cognizant of the implied meaning. Perhaps overly pedantic on this one thing. I just find the definition misleading, Naturally Grown or something similar IMO would be a better definition. Just a pet peeve like the misuse of quantum in the 80s and 90s to describe big things. We all have little things that bother us that aren't necessarily logical or important, this is mine. (:

      Aquaponics is fascinating, I am well familiar with Hydroponics, but had never read of Aquaponics before. A interesting concept. I wonder if it scales?

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      • (Score: 2) by bart9h on Tuesday August 11 2015, @03:29AM

        by bart9h (767) on Tuesday August 11 2015, @03:29AM (#221084)

        So you don't agree with the new use of this word.

        But it's being used like that, like you or not. It's too late to change that. Accept it and move on.

      • (Score: 3, Interesting) by Mr Big in the Pants on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:59AM

        by Mr Big in the Pants (4956) on Wednesday August 12 2015, @06:59AM (#221601)

        Definitions are only useful if all participants agree. :)

        Permaculture is more interesting than either of those I find because it is based on systems thinking and is rather like constructing an organic train set in some ways.